How man can prove God exists.

I am a theist but I like to discuss with atheists how and why they became atheists, and I welcome atheists to discuss with me how and why I am a theist - all like as we are friends.

Why do I come to an atheists' forum, because sooner than later I always get banned in theists' forums.

So, perhaps I will stay indefinitely in your forum - and I like that very much!

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yrger · 80-89, M

Newjaninev2 · 51-55, F says to yrger:

Why are you telling me what I mean?

If my meaning is unclear, simply ask me.

I have already said that love isn’t how we feel about the other person... love is how we feel about ourselves when we’re with the other person.

If two people feel good about themselves when they are with the other person, then that mutuality of self-benefit will bring them together.

You will note that I am not saying 'love is a feeling between two persons who are in love’ (that statement is, in any case, circular, and explains nothing)

I have already said that love isn’t how we feel about the other person... love is how we feel about ourselves when we’re with the other person.

If two people feel good about themselves when they are with the other person, then that mutuality of self-benefit will bring them together.

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Hi Newjaninev2, you submit:

(a) that love isn’t how we feel about the other person...
(b) love is how we feel about ourselves
(c) when we’re with the other person.
(d) If two people feel good about themselves when they are with the other person,
(e) then that mutuality of self-benefit will bring them together.

Let you and me talk about love between you and me, is that all right with you?

In the order of time sequence:

In (a) you declare "that love isn’t how we feel about the other person."

In (b) you declare "love is how we feel about ourselves."

In (c) "you are with the other person."

In (d) you each one feel good about each one's self when together.

In (e) you each one conclude the mutuality of self-benefit will bring you two together.

So, that is for you what love is all about, "the mutuality of self-benefit."

I have a question for you:
"When your mother already loved you while she was happily carrying you in her womb with gladsome expectation, did she harbor the idea that love is the the mutuality of self-benefit, and it will bring you two together"?