The End Is Near

The Bible can be summed up like this: mankind rejected their creator against his advice. The last days began with the birth of Adam and Eve's first child, Cain. As the end draws to a close we will see that we are going to destroy ourselves without Jehovah's interference. Can you see it? Religion has diminished. It was false anyway, but it spawned an illegitimate offspring, science. You can't stop it, and why would you? Watch the spectacle.

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Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@SemmelweisReflex, The idea that the world will end soon is just another Jewish fairy tale. That's not to say that people won't nuke themselves out of existence but the planet should remain intact for the cockroaches and other bugs.

[b][i]What is the significance of the year 6000 in the Jewish calendar?[/i][/b]
https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/607585/jewish/Significance-of-the-year-6000.htm

It's the year 5782 per the Jewish calendar so in another 218 years the whine expressed by Ezra in 2 Esdras 6:55-59 (CEB) might finally be resolved and they will control the world = “I have said all these things before you, Lord, because you have said that you created the oldest age for our sake. 56 You have said that the other nations born of Adam are nothing, that they are like spit, and you have compared their abundance to a drop from a pitcher. 57 But look now, Lord! These nations that are valued as nothing rule over us and devour us, 58 while we, your people, whom you have called your oldest offspring, your one and only child, those who are zealous for you, your dearest ones, are handed over to them. 59 If the world was created for our sake, why don’t we possess our world as an inheritance? How long will this situation last?”

AkioTsukino · M

@Diotrephes [quote] The idea that the world will end soon is just another Jewish fairy tale. That's not to say that people won't nuke themselves out of existence but the planet should remain intact for the cockroaches and other bugs.[/quote]

What is the significance of the year 6000 in the Jewish calendar?[/quote]

I don't really have any interest in silly religious nonsense. My primary interest is the Bible. Occasionally I have to address nonsense if it gets confused with the Bible but otherwise not. The Bible says the earth was created to last forever and that it will. The world will be destroyed. Sometimes context uses the two terms interchangeable, but the distinction is clear.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@AkioTsukino The way I understand it is that the Jewish calendar starts with the creation of the world. The process took 6 days. The calendar has one thousand years equal to one day of creation. And, since God rested on the seventh day, that is when the world will end. The math seems a little off because to me it seems that it should be another 1,218 more years to reach the seventh day. Since the year is just 5782 another 218 years will make it the year 6000. God worked all day on the sixth day. Either way I won't make it another 218 years so maybe I will never know.

That's what happens when you discuss silly ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern religious fairy tales. They don't make sense.

AkioTsukino · M

@Diotrephes Jewish thinking is often thought to be more valid than Christian thinking, which isn't true. Jewish thinking was corrupted over time just as Christian or any other. If you look closely at the language the Bible doesn't say that the process took 144 hours, or six literal days. And the seventh day continues to this day. Also, estimates on the date of the heavens and earth aren't implied in the Bible. You can't get that data from the Bible. You can get an approximation of the age of mankind, but that's about it.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@AkioTsukino So mankind is only shy of being 6,000 years old? Did you hear about the icebergs they discovered on the Sun?

AkioTsukino · M

@Diotrephes Well, think about this . . . if there was a canopy of water lifted up from the planet in the creation to make land and protect against the sun, how much would that effect the earth's climate and human lifespan prior to the flood AND how much would it alter dating methods? Not to mention land mass, ice caps, climate, mountains....

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@AkioTsukino In case you missed it, we exist in an ocean of water; that is what the atmosphere is. We don't notice it because it is usually dry but under the right conditions the water will fall out of the air as a liquid. It is really amazing. Dry air can kill you.

AkioTsukino · M

@Diotrephes [quote]n case you missed it, we exist in an ocean of water; that is what the atmosphere is. We don't notice it because it is usually dry but under the right conditions the water will fall out of the air as a liquid. It is really amazing. Dry air can kill you.[/quote]

Uh-huh. But I'm not talking about that.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@AkioTsukino [quote]how much would it alter dating methods?[/quote]

Not in the slightest... why would you think that?

AkioTsukino · M

@newjaninev2 How is dating done?

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@AkioTsukino The radioactive decay of isotopes.

Would you like me to take you through that?

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@newjaninev2 [b]Would you like me to take you through that?[/b]

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@AkioTsukino [quote] How is dating done?[/quote]

Sometimes the two people arrange to meet and go somewhere (often a restaurant) to relax and chat and get to know each other 😀

Would you like me to take you through that also?

AkioTsukino · M

@newjaninev2 [quote]The radioactive decay of isotopes.

Would you like me to take you through that?[/quote]

I have a basic understanding of it. In 1969 some chemists, archaeologists and geologists got together in Uppsala, Sweden with a dozen problems they had that might render radiocarbon useless. Contamination, of course, with live carbon or dead carbon. Atmospheric changes. Cosmic rays vary, changes in the magnetic field. Magnetic storms on the sun. The explosion of nuclear bombs has increased carbon 14. Volcanic eruptions adding to the carbon-dioxide reservoir, the burning of fossil fuels.

With racemization Del Mar man was dated at 48,000 years, A female near Sunnyvale at 70,000 years. Pretty old for North America. So radioactive intermediate decay tests dated Del Mar at 11,000 years and the other at 9,000. Pretty big margin of error.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@AkioTsukino Carbon dating has 50,000 year limit.

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Diotrephes yes indeed... it’s used predominantly in archaeology, etc. Even then it works only on organic, or previously organic, material. Error has been sharply reduced in modern times, thanks to advances in technology, but in any case the method is of no interest for material older than 50,000 years, for which radiometric dating is applicable.

AkioTsukino · M

@Diotrephes [quote]Carbon dating has 50,000 year limit.[/quote]

Do you mind if I ask you: do you "believe" in evolution? Are you conversant on the subject? Not for the purpose of having a technical debate, which I'm not equipped or interested in myself, but rather, just a sort of . . . I don't know . . . discussion of what evolution may or may not mean to a believer in the Bible who rejects evolution. If I started a new thread would you feel comfortable in having that sort of non-technical discussion?

I ask because I don't get that you are interested in indoctrinating or preaching to me on the subject, you seem to be intelligent and have a sense of curiosity and fairness.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@AkioTsukino Thanks for your kind opinion.

To answer your question, sure, I will participate in the thread. But you should also know that the Bible does give examples of physical evolution in animals. And everything in the universe evolves on a continuous basis. Humans have physically evolved within the past century or so.

AkioTsukino · M

@Diotrephes [quote]To answer your question, sure, I will participate in the thread. But you should also know that the Bible does give examples of physical evolution in animals. And everything in the universe evolves on a continuous basis. Humans have physically evolved within the past century or so.[/quote]

Good! And I completely agree with what you've said about evolution and the Bible in the above quote.

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@AkioTsukino Which thread will you post in?

AkioTsukino · M

@Diotrephes I started a new one. It's here https://similarworlds.com/atheism/4335512-Diotrephes-Part-I-Ideological-Fixation-And-The

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@AkioTsukinoThe radioactive decay of isotopes.

[b]Would you like me to take you through that?[/b]