I am a pretty skilled student of astrology

@Ferise1 Did I say that? No.

If you have a lot of both Pisces ♓ and Virgo or planets in or effecting theirs houses, people will likely have trouble with substances especially if they have undeveloped planets.

♓ is about the collective unconscious ancient civilizations have long used substances to connect to the earth and the collective unconscious. Doings it yourself (that is connecting to the collective unconscious without substances) is a lot harder and takes a lot more effort. You often need special attention, skills and training.

@Greyjedi well you said I understood Mars in Pisces and all I mention was drugs and alcohol.
I have Saturn in Virgo 10° away compared to my Pisces Mars.
Do you know much about connecting to the collective unconscious?

@Ferise1
Sounds like your Virgo may have really helped you out with taking control of your consumption. Virgo and Saturn are somewhat compatible

Only that people do it all the time by one of three means. Substances, emotionally manipulative language and and meditation. I don’t like substances personally and you those in the know say for stuff like weed you need to have a purpose for taking it and a relationship with with the substance (whatever that means) or your experience will never be fun or insightful.

Manipulative emotional language is the worst. It creates vastly excessive fear and hate. It creates ethnic cleansings. It creates racism and little to no accountability or empathy. Normal people can become as violent as serial killers. I like this much less than substances, I try to step away from this

It’s hard for me to find the time to do proper meditation, and not super easy to get into a meditative trance but I have gotten close before.

Anyone who takes a substance or excess will have an experience of or getting close to the collective unconscious but can not influence others. Manipulative emotional language can effect everyone exposed to such messages and they will likely have no awareness. Meditation only effects those participating in meditation and they may have greater awareness of their experiences.