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I Believe In Social Justice

It's funny when people call me an sjw. "You sjws" and "sjws always" "now you're an sjw?"
No one calls themselves that anymore, for one thing. If you're anti- social-justice and you call people you're arguing with sjw's, you're showing how out of touch you are, at best.
Sjw is used to mean someone who gets overly emotional and pushy about inane things under the banner of social justice. First, again, no one calls themselves that anymore. Second, you look stupid ranting about liberals being 'offended,'because not only is that a distraction tactic, it dismisses the very valid emotions and very real concerns of anyone who speaks up about these issues (and because you wouldn't be ranting if you weren't 'offended' yourself, so I don't understand why people try to use that. But nice job minimizing the experiences of millions of people because you can't handle being called out.)
So no, I'm not an 'sjw,' whatever that means in your head. I'm just a decent person, or at least I'm trying to be. If you can't tell the difference, then maybe you're just an ass.

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SW-User

Oh baby... *pat*

NinaSilver · 26-30, F

I hope that's not condescension.

SW-User

@NinaSilver: from someone whose entire rant was delivered from a high horse

*gallop*

NinaSilver · 26-30, F

@Faerylight: It's hardly a high horse. I'm expressing frustration with people (usually the same people, who don't know my account on this platform) using distractions and dismissals every time they try to argue with me. I'm sorry if my expressing my own frustration at negative interactions in my life has bothered you, but it's hardly grounds for you to comment on my, a stranger's post, dripping with condescension, and replying with condescension when I gave you a chance to backtrack.

SW-User

@NinaSilver: I've never known anyone to use the term SJW about themselves

It is a term combined to describe those obsessed with unrooting slights and microaggressions

They are usually very rude and unpleasant people with no social skills

Now you've explained you had set people in mind your post sounds less like you're telling people you don't know how they must be and how they must think (simply because they disagree with you)

If you really want to know why people use this term why don't you try asking rather than delivering a lecture suggesting they are somehow lesser people?

NinaSilver · 26-30, F

@Faerylight: I know why they use that term. I also don't suggest they are lesser people- I point out that they are using asinine strategies, and really, this post is applicable to anyone who employs those same strategies.

Again, none of the assumptions you made about me warranted your condescension.

SW-User

Your post was a one way conversation/monologue of attack -where you are presenting yourself in a good light while attacking and categorising others

As we don't have the context of your original disagreements how can we assess if you are presenting this fairly?

It is precisely this kind of 'talk down' that has people using the term SJW

You use the term gaslighting which I have used too in relation to societal trends

but it is also emotional abuse to label people who disagree with them as many SJW's do

To dismiss others arguments and concerns

To find constant fault

When does fighting against 'marginalization' end and 'sowing social division' begin?

Personally I believe we've past that point

If you want people to respect you -first respect them

That's all I'm saying

NinaSilver · 26-30, F

@Faerylight: I respect others, unless they disrespect me. I will add, however, that certain views are automatically disrespectful and discriminatory. Many such views are currently considered socially acceptable, but they shouldn't be.

My post was about people who have, to put it frankly, been assholes to me and to anyone else who speaks against social injustice. I don't talk down to people until they talk down to me (actually, most of the time not even then.)

I'm not attacking other people, but the fact that you think I am is very telling, as is your statement that you think we are past the point of fighting against marginalization and have moved into the sowing of social discord. (And the fact that you put marginalization in scare quotes.)

So yeah. There was no need to be condescending to me. Feel free at any time to stop trying to justify it.

SW-User

@NinaSilver: Justify what? You think things are telling.... I think things are telling....

I think it's funny how clueless you are to your own nastiness due to your self righteousness

Let's leave it at a mutual dislike :-)

NinaSilver · 26-30, F

@Faerylight: I know exactly when and how I can be nasty. You really shouldn't be lecturing here, seeing as you're the one who was rude sans provocation. Again, I am respectful to those who are respectful to me (actually, it's usually more productive to be respectful regardless, so I try to go that route.)

Justify, of course, your inclination to speak to me in such a manner based on little but assumption; and your action upon that inclination.

It's interesting too that you think I dislike you. Making more assumptions. I'm not incredibly fond of being condescended to, especially when there is no reason to do so, but I don't dislike you.

You clearly viewed me as 'nasty' from the start, and so felt justified to speak to me as you did. I'm not sure why you are so immediately defensive and so inclined to assume (project?) but I assure you there's no need.

Happy Thanksgiving, if you celebrate it. Have a nice day.

SW-User

@NinaSilver: awww

I'm won over. Maybe I did make assumptions. :-)

My apologies :-)

NinaSilver · 26-30, F

@Faerylight: I'm inclined to believe this is just you wanting the conversation to stop. Most people don't 180 that quickly. The 'awww' seems in keeping with your tone throughout the exchange thus far.

SW-User

@NinaSilver: No. I accept that maybe my dislike of SJWs coloured my perception of your post and I allowed my current pissed offedness at everything SWJ to lead me to be rude to you. I really don't like insinuations that people (especially myself) are racist or homophobic or sexist -I do think that's nasty. I assume (again) that given our respective world views we will probably never agree on whether that is nasty -you feeling both certain and justified. Therefore I'm inclined to apologize for lumping you in with what I consider to be a bad lot and being rude -while leaving go things we aren't going to agree on.

For constructive conversations one has to be prepared to have one's mind changed.

It's probably not a good start to one (for which I can only apologize as I have done and you are disinclined to accept as genuine) :-)

NinaSilver · 26-30, F

@Faerylight: Alright. Thank you.