Thoughts on meaning, nihilism.
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Existence has meaning
Existence is meaningless
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To be honest I don't even know what "meaning" means here, like how it relates to existence. Is it purpose? I don't believe in a greater purpose because I think existence came into existence by chance, if that makes sense... And true, many people like to invent a purpose, and they think that "if my life is meaningless then I might as well die" but I don't get why you need to have a purpose in the first place. If you were born, that's a good enough reason for you to exist, just like for everything else on this planet. I like to say that the meaning of life is that there's no meaning at all. I like what you said here too [quote]Perhaps the point of existence is merely to be able to experience existence, that in itself would have the deepest meaning of all tbh.[/quote]
Perhaps I'm a nihilist, I really don't know. I just don't find any of it comforting, or the opposite. And maybe I personally never needed comfort so that's why I don't understand it.
Like even if god exists like most people imagine this "being" to exist, why did he create anything at all? I'm surprised I've never came across any religious person asking that. Was it a need of his? Was he bored? Did he feel anything at all while creating? To me it's all just too anthropocentric and that's why when it comes to such vague terms and existential questions I don't like any religious or spiritual explanations. Even if there's a creator greater than us, we're thinking of it very simplistically because we like to apply humane characteristics in just about anything. Even the thought of having a purpose is just too humane and therefore not superior than any other feeling. "Today I'm sad, I have no purpose." "Oh I finally found my purpose so I'm so happy!". For some reason purpose is associated with goodness. So yeah I don't think it's anything superior or crucial in the long run.
Perhaps I'm a nihilist, I really don't know. I just don't find any of it comforting, or the opposite. And maybe I personally never needed comfort so that's why I don't understand it.
Like even if god exists like most people imagine this "being" to exist, why did he create anything at all? I'm surprised I've never came across any religious person asking that. Was it a need of his? Was he bored? Did he feel anything at all while creating? To me it's all just too anthropocentric and that's why when it comes to such vague terms and existential questions I don't like any religious or spiritual explanations. Even if there's a creator greater than us, we're thinking of it very simplistically because we like to apply humane characteristics in just about anything. Even the thought of having a purpose is just too humane and therefore not superior than any other feeling. "Today I'm sad, I have no purpose." "Oh I finally found my purpose so I'm so happy!". For some reason purpose is associated with goodness. So yeah I don't think it's anything superior or crucial in the long run.
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HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@Ryannnnnn it's hard to tell anything about consciousness yet as we don't know too much and I agree, it doesn't have to be either god or science. Maybe science will explain "god" some day.
I don't believe anything is pointless [i]right now[/i], I've heard of some scientists saying that even if you went back in time and removed one grain of sand from one beach, the world would be different in some way. Much like the butterfly effect, like every little something can contribute to something greater, so everything matters.
However I could believe that everything is pointless too, when we have "forever" as a time frame, because what if things were different? Since things are as they are and they will be as they will be, there's not much point to it all either.
I don't believe anything is pointless [i]right now[/i], I've heard of some scientists saying that even if you went back in time and removed one grain of sand from one beach, the world would be different in some way. Much like the butterfly effect, like every little something can contribute to something greater, so everything matters.
However I could believe that everything is pointless too, when we have "forever" as a time frame, because what if things were different? Since things are as they are and they will be as they will be, there's not much point to it all either.
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
@HannibalAteMeOut I think that's where I disagree. I don't believe things become meaningless in relation to time or anything else. I think it's a very human thing to do, we see things in heirarchies, if we're just a tiny spec in a universe that somehow makes it less significant. I don't think meaning or significance is reducable by scale. Also whereas we might concieve as the future being seemingly forever, the only thing that objectively exists is now. The future is merely a conceptualisation of the now we'll exist in soon.
Depends on how we look at it really, we can either see it as "with so many possibilities we are but one so it makes us insignificant" or "with so many possibilities we are the one that exists so that makes it significant". Plus the other existences are what if's as we're what exists, I guess if you follow that train long enough we'll end up in the realms of fatalism.
Depends on how we look at it really, we can either see it as "with so many possibilities we are but one so it makes us insignificant" or "with so many possibilities we are the one that exists so that makes it significant". Plus the other existences are what if's as we're what exists, I guess if you follow that train long enough we'll end up in the realms of fatalism.
HannibalAteMeOut · 22-25, F
@Ryannnnnn yeah what you explained in your second paragraph is basically what I meant but couldn't express it well enough.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP
Black pilled.
Everything’s fucked and beyond repair
Everything’s fucked and beyond repair
Ryannnnnn · 31-35, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Hahaha. I think "black pill" talk is by peeps who've just given up in general, I don't buy it. Same with "red pill", subjective BS that usually doesn't apply outside of their own world view.
TheOneyouwerewarnedabout · 41-45, MVIP
Jackaloftheazuresand · 26-30, M
I understand and I don't, paradox