I Think Wild Animals Should Stay As Wild Animals

I suppose you live in Egypt. Do you have pets?

The streets in my neighborhood are full of stray dogs and cats.

My mother and my neighbor were bitten by stray dogs.
Believe me it’s no joke.

Actually to put things straight!

With a population of 100, 000,000, I don’t think animals are the government’s priority. After the revolution we are in debt! With corona virus, we are even more in debt. So really I have to praise those young activists for their efforts in educating others. It’s so much better than sitting at home and complaining that nothing is being done! These activists are funded by donations ! So there is awareness and that’s where change starts!

I have two dogs, my daughter just adopted a deaf street kitten and an abandoned cat.

My other daughter, living on the Red Sea, is an activist against the use of plastic and has adopted three cats.

My neighbor feeds the street cats in our neighborhood.

We do what we can within the conditions we live in. At least we do!


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Here’s an article and a list of animal shelters in Egypt in case you decide to donate or adopt. ❤️

https://scoopempire.com/these-egyptian-animal-shelters-are-in-desperate-need-of-your-help/

@Seetie Oh Please, stop justifying wrong things! If there is something wrong with the country, just admit it, it is the first step to resolve a problem. But to try and justify something disgusting like killing dogs is way out of line (just like you tried to justify similar things before). Especially when these justifications are naive, I mean, you do know that the lack of proper established animal rights is an issue that goes back beyond the revolution, don't you? And please, don't tell me your family's stories to prove the love for dogs in Egypt's population lol. Yourself and your two daughters represent 3/100M ;) And I never said that everyone in Egypt hates dogs, but you can't deny that Islamic teachings have left many people hating dogs and avoiding them.

@Seetie I told you before, don't post me links. I know where to get my information from ;) Plus, the links you are posting usually have nothing to do with what I said. I didn't comment and tell you that there are no animal shelters in Egypt, in order to post me a link listing the shelters lol I said something completely different talking about stray dogs and the lack of established laws with regards animals. That has nothing to do with shelters, I believe.

You have so much hate in you it’s eating you up. To you everything goes back to “Islamic teachings”’. To religion. Well, the Quran says don’t throw garbage on the streets, kids are taught that in religion class in first grade, yet they still throw garbage on the street. It’s a social problem! @BittersweetPotato

@BittersweetPotato I posted the link so you could donate or adopt😁

Isn’t that the place to start? By supporting those fighting for awareness.

@Seetie Well at least I am not making anything up! Islamic teachings do indeed advise against dogs. Dogs are portrayed in Islam as dirty and impure creatures, whether you like it or not! Do I have hate towards these teachings? Of course!! And proud to hate such immoral teachings and practices, which have impacted the Arab and Muslim world on such a fundamental level, as they have become so much rooted in the culture and social life. Cultures are not developed out of the blue, they are the accumulation of many things including religious teachings.

@BittersweetPotato I could post you links of cruelty towards animals anywhere. It exists everywhere. How about the recent video on YouTube, of a man killing cats unsung cruel methods, I think they put that on Netflix. That was not in Egypt.

@Seetie Just because it happens elsewhere, it doesn't make it right or fine ;) The way you keep on justifying wrong things rather than admitting that they are wrong, is sad.

@Seetie I think the way to start is for you as an individual to stop hiding the flaws and wrong practices. This is a good way to start resolving a problem. But to deny, hide and worse; to justify such cruel practices, you are just as cruel as the ones who actually do these things. Hiding the root cause of problems is also another dangerous act. You are just helping to keep the ignorance spread. I think bravely talking about problems in an honest way is a much bigger help than adopting a dog. Not that adopting dogs doesn't help or is not a good thing, but I am just saying, honesty may come with a larger benefit, as more people would realise that hey, dogs can actually make nice pets, they are not dirty and they won't prevent angels from getting into their house, as religion caused them to sadly believe.

That’s why young smart activists and organizations are needed for awareness and change to happen. These activists are Muslims too! Instead of dwelling on old scriptures, we set an example, make change by showing people that animals should be cared for.

Reminds me of an Egyptian lady who was driving her car and saw the man in his balcony hitting his dog, she got out her cell phone and filmed it while she was shouting at the man. This video went viral in egypt! People were angry and shocked!! That’s where awareness and change starts. The man looked so embarrassed!


Another story of a neighbor who left his dog out once in the winter, the “Muslim” neighbors threw the dog a blanket and later told the man to give the dog away if he was not going to take care of it.

I could go on and on with the good stories I hear, but why should i?

I’ll just send you this 😂


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😂. @BittersweetPotato

@Seetie I am just saying, you are making the job of these "young and smart activists" more difficult by hiding and defending the fundamental flaws in the system. The mindset that these 'Muslim' activists have is absolutely a minority in Egypt, and they are trying to educate a huge population where the overwhelming majority blindly believes in the old scriptures! Not only do they believe in them, but they think that these scriptures represent the absolute truth. So don't try to make the old scriptures seem like they are of no harm. I know how the average Egyptian thinks and how they perceive these scriptures.

You’re wrong. I deal with workers , my husband had 14 workers in our shop. They have a fear from dogs because of rabies. They’re afraid these dogs will bite their kids, as the stray dog bit my mother and she had to take raby shots.

So you’ll often see a mother telling her young kid not to go near the dog, they are dirty and can bite!

It’s really a problem. I mean just around my building we’ve got around 5 stray dogs and around 20 stray cats.

What i’m happy about is that now these organizations go around in vans, my daughter just saw one the other day, they are vaccinating dogs and marking their ears as safe.

I definitely see progress where I live!

In lower income areas, i’m Sure dogs are not well treated. It’s not the religion. Something has to be done to control the population of strays from increasing.


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@BittersweetPotato just to verify, I just asked a worker, is a dog “haram” in the Quran? He answered no, it’s the saliva of a dog that’s “haram” because it carries bacteria that is fatal, but if a dog is vaccinated and is domesticated, there’s no problem.

He’s talking about rabies.

@Seetie Nothing easier than telling someone that they are wrong. 😃 But you are in real denial if you try to imply in any way that the overwhelming majority in Egypt does not take the divine scriptures very seriously. Actually, if you tell the avg Egyptian that to their face, they will be offended!

As for the progress in Egypt towards the stray dogs problem, I am well aware of it actually. I was just pointing out a real problem , doesn't mean that nothing at all is being done about it. Not enough of course, but hey, I keep myself informed of both sides to the story, like I told you yesterday!

@Seetie The dogs are advised against in sahih Hadiths, go ask him again ;)

He’s a practicimg Muslim, he’s not sure what that Hadith says. He doesn’t seem to care either. 😂@BittersweetPotato

@Seetie Doesn't change the fact that Islamic teachings say that dogs are dirty, impure, and will prevent angels from going into your house ;)

Nope! But mind you! I will look into this in the Quran and get back to you. Like I said, i’m Not religious! I have to do my own research. @BittersweetPotato

@Seetie Then perhaps it is a good idea to learn about religion first and gain a good knowledge, before we go on defending it, right? :D I mean yesterday you claimed that you defend all religions, and now you are implying that you don't even know what is in them! What are you defending then, something you don't even know? But don't worry, I know for a fact that most practicing Muslims lack knowledge of their own religion and don't understand Quran, but they still blindly believe in it and would fight you over it.

No! I defend the people who are getting attacked by people like you! They have the right to practice their religion without your negative, sometimes hateful remarks. What’s your problem? You can’t accept that someone loves his/her religion, Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, Jew, peacefully? It’s eating you up inside? I will defend anyone practicing their religion peacefully and not enforcing it on others!

You turned my post about letting an animal free into another religious discussion.

Seriously?

@BittersweetPotato

Why don’t you go into my post about fermenting kombucha and milk kefir and the benefits of probiotics to the immune system and turn that into a religious debate too!

😂

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@Seetie
Well this is what you said yourself, that you passionately defend them all, and then you clarified it even further, ((all religion)) lol - But this is not the first time you contradict yourself, you know!

You really need to understand the difference between my right to criticise immoral and wrong teachings in religions, and between the right of people to follow their religion. The two do not contradict each other.

And perhaps while you are so passionate about defending freedom, you may as well defend the right of atheists to live freely in Muslim countries without getting in trouble, or is freedom a one way street in religious context?

You know, i’ve Been asked about my beliefs and I tell people here that i don’t practice any religion, neither do my daughters.Do you want me to staple it on my face??Do you want me to get into heated discussions that go nowhere? The problem’s in you! You want to debate what others believe, I say let them be as long as they are letting me be!

I’m not contradicting myself. I defend people and their religions and their rights to practice whatever they want as long as they do it peacefully without enforcing it on others.

I’m sure everyone here understood me except you. 😂

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