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Are we 100% certain that George Floyd’s heinous murder was because of his race? Or was psycho cop, just being a psychopath, regardless of the color of the victim’s skin? To me, this hasn’t been established. Everyone just assumed it was racial. The only one who knows for sure is the murderer. Only he knows what his motive was to take George’s life. Maybe we will find out at his trial, but until we do, I’m not convinced that this was racial. He had 18 previous complaints against him. If the media were proper journalists, we’d know what those complaints were, and who made them. We are missing information, and more people are dead because of the riots, and assumptions that it’s about race.
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
I think it was the psycho cop who couldn’t deal with an unruly citizen. I don’t think all cops are bad but this one should have been terminated way before this.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
Yes. Whoever, kept him on the force after all those complaints needs to resign, or be held accountable. @Keepitsimple
Keepitsimple · 51-55, F
I think it’s a done deal, they were talking about Dismantling That police force. @Carissimi
Carissimi · 70-79, F
That would be a mistake. No police, then no one is safe. The mafia, gangs, and other criminal elements take over. @Keepitsimple
George Floyd had done nothing wrong and nothing even remotely provocative. He ofter zero resistence and literally begged for 8.76 minutes to be allowed to breathe.

If these officers were ordinary psychopaths they would never have passed the training to become cops.
If any of them had become spychopaths since qualifying, the changing behaviours would have shown up in previous incidents.
Since sociopaths number one in twenty of the general population, the chances that all four police officers were psychotic is next zero.
Given the statistical frequency of racist murders committed by police,
there is no other possible explanation.


Of the four police, the one who murdered George Floyd was white.
George had committed no crime, offered no resistence or protest when the police unlawfully grabbed him, and begged to be allowed to breathe for 8.76 minutes before he died. Under these circumstances, such a death is not manslaughter; it is deliberate, cold, sadistic and calculated murder.
Of the three police who stood by, watched, and did not intervene to save George, two were white and one was Chinese or Asian.

Yaking all these facts into account, there can be no doubt that the [i]only[/i] possible motivation was racism.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
I said “psych cop” not “cops.” He worked with the one who killed him 10-years ago. Apart from what I saw on the videos, which shows cold blooded murder, the motive is just speculation. You have your opinion on the motive, and that’s okay, but it’s still an opinion, not fact. We may never know the true motive, but I’ll wait to hear the evidence before coming to a conclusion about motive.

If the older white guy, who was knocked down by the Buffalo police, was black instead of white, you can be sure it would have been called racist. Police brutality is not confined to one race, therefore just jumping to conclusions that something is racist is a knee jerk and potentially dangerous reaction, in my opinion. More whites were killed by police in 2019 than blacks, it’s just that one race gets all the media attention. @hartfire
@Carissimi The thing is, blacks are only 13% of the US population, but twice as many blacks are killed by police (without provocation or lawful justification) as whites. This statistic has remained fairly stable for a very long time. Even the fact that no government has sought to do anything to prevent this kind of crime is a form of passive racism. It's facile to say that there could be another cause, but it's also naïve.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
It’s also a fact that 6% of black men commit 50% of the crime. @hartfire
Elessar · 26-30, M
Even assuming it wasn't, a trained professional in police forces, in a first world country no less, shouldn't kill you unnecessarily. That alone would've caused at the very least a local protest, especially in a country where tension was already high.

The guy who got almost killed in Buffalo was white, and I assume has got a large media coverage too, since it was broadcasted even here in Europe where American protests are like the 3rd-4th story in the news every day.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Carissimi Sure, just saying that even if the matter wasn't racial, you can't exclude there would've been dissent, protests or even riots, maybe just thematically different. This from an external point of view, I of course don't claim my opinion must necessarily match a potentially alternate reality.

@DestroyerOfIdeologies Have there been multiple cases matching the place and description? But yeah, the old guy who got violently pushed and had blood coming out of his head while incapacitated on the ground. I assumed he was dead at first.
DestroyerOfIdeologies · 22-25, M
@Elessar Just wanted to make sure. Yeah the blood coming out of his head was very worrisome. Thanks.
Elessar · 26-30, M
@DestroyerOfIdeologies No problem. For a while I feared he wasn't the only case in the very same place matching the description. 😶
goldenorchid · 46-50, F
I think there was previous history between the two of them.
it was hinted at in a newspaper article but I couldn't get any sensible references.
goldenorchid · 46-50, F
@Carissimi yes, unfortunately some people can't, they've guessed at the situation and decided it's fact, and according to them, pointing out an alternative view point is being racist.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
I know. It’s really unfortunate that some people lack critical thinking skills. @goldenorchid
goldenorchid · 46-50, F
@Carissimi there seems to be a thought train that says, the victim was of ethnic minority decent therefore it's racist, if you disagree you are racist, and it gets applied to anything that might be racist or not.
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
I agree with you. People think it’s “racist” to look further into things instead of just taking one glance and making a snap judgment. You’re not “one of them” if you don’t do that. It’s ridiculous.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
It’s not nice to be called something you are not. It’s an attack on your character, and these days can lead to more than hurt feelings. Some people have lost their jobs for just stating the facts. The “woke” are pernicious in their character assassination. @SinlessOnslaught
SinlessOnslaught · 26-30, M
@Carissimi Right.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
We need to be careful who we share our thoughts with. When we know certain people are hostile, if you don’t agree with them, best to stay silent, especially if they are vindictive. That kind is dangerous. @SinlessOnslaught
DestroyerOfIdeologies · 22-25, M
Interesting point. But it's still very possible riots would have happened if people just protested police brutality without racism claims. Police brutality is everyone's problem. By the way I don't support riots at all, just to be clear.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
It’s definitely police brutality, but everyone jumped on the race issue like a knee jerk reaction. @DestroyerOfIdeologies
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Well maybe people should think first before they resist arrest or break the law
Carissimi · 70-79, F
He didn’t resist arrest, and even if he did, and even if he broke the law, which we don’t know that he did, he didn’t deserve to die by slow suffocation. In fact, he didn’t deserve to die, period. We don’t execute people for passing a fake note, and like I said, no crime has been established yet, on his part. @MarineBob
JavaJim · 61-69, M
People claimed it was racial because it fit their narrative and served as a likely excuse
Sometimes when things happen for no apparent reason I do wonder if it is because of my race. In some cases it possibly is and in others it could be because someone is being a jerk and I quite possibly could go nuts thinking it. It is paranoia but not without reason. ....however, one cannot deny the unpropotional amount of African Americans that are killed by police. Maybe it was just a psychopath, but I just don't buy it
@Carissimi According to Campaign Zero, an organisation that tracks police violence nationwide, Minneapolis police have killed Black residents at more than 13 times the rate of white residents.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
One of my sons, who is white, has been stopped so many times by corrupt police. Taken from his car, handcuffed, and put in jail overnight without even being arrested. He couldn’t make a phone call because they said he wasn’t arrested, just being detained. They took him before a judge the next morning. The judge told him to go home. He wasn’t charged with anything. He was a two-hour walk from his car. It was pure power by ego maniac cops. My son had worked a 12-hour shift, and was driving home from work. He did nothing wrong. This has happened several times. While I sympathize with you, and believe some cops are racist, I also know that many are just ego maniacs, whose power has gone to their heads, and color of skin is irrelevant in many cases. @InOtterWords
Carissimi · 70-79, F
@InOtterWords Yes, That PD has a terrible track record for killing innocent people. The victim’s were black and white. They hire just about anyone, even criminals. What do they expect when the hiring standards are so low.
rachelsj · 22-25, F
The other cops involved were black and asian
Carissimi · 70-79, F
I think they are all white, except for one Asian. I didn’t see anyone black in the mug shots. @rachelsj

 
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