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Is hating the police justified or just a political narrative?

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In the last few years, US law enforcement has been in the spotlight but a rather dim light in the eyes of some.

Some are saying the police need to be defunded, and some are saying the police need to be abolished completely.

After last years death of George Floyd seemed to pour gas on the already lit fire. A push for defunding the police was the battle cry.

Some places such as Minneapolis have gone the route to defunding their police, but have soon regretted their decision as crime rose following the action.



Some also say that police are racially biased but according to statistics that doesn’t seem to be the case.

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/87616.pdf

https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=84

https://news.yale.edu/2020/10/27/racial-disparity-police-shootings-unchanged-over-5-years

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/

What are your thoughts?

Do you think the police need to be defunded? Abolished? Supported?
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deadgerbil · 26-30, M
I am aiming to get into law enforcement, but I can totally see why some people would hate the cops and would be justified in doing so.

They need to make sure their frustration towards cops is conducive to change tho, as looting and rioting isn't the solution.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@deadgerbil Many protests against the police requested that police guard them for their safety. How odd. Surely the police would simply shoot on these very protestors, according to the very same protesters’ logic?
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
@pianoplayingsteve not odd at all. The vast majority of the protestors recognize the need for a good police force. Gotta work with the police to actualize this, and that's why it's good to see various stories of police departments joining the protestors in the name of police reform.
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@deadgerbil I’m referring to the protestors who do that whist also demomising the police claiming what I described. I remember a while back seeing a police officer talk about how he and some other police officers were called by some protestors who wanted to defund the police for reasons I described, to defend them.
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
@pianoplayingsteve yeah, that happens too. I remember reading a story of how this person called the police on some bs nonsense, despite squawking about defunding the police. It's pretty funny

https://news.yahoo.com/portland-city-commissioner-campaigned-defund-222917406.html

Am I supposed to defend their weird logic? I hope not and I'm not gonna lol
pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M
@deadgerbil here’s a thought. Why don’t these protestors join the police force and be the change they claim to want to see? And I don’t mean just one or two. If all these people have time to protest, why don’t they join the force and be the change they wish to see? There would be no job vacancies in the police force left for bad people.
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
@pianoplayingsteve it's simply not feasible for many of those people to join the police. It's good that people from all walks of life want to bring attention to it tho. And just because someone isn't able to join x, does not mean they shouldn't be able to protest things related to it that affect us all.

I wanna join the police and be the change so to speak, but I'm not gonna sh!t on someone who isn't interested in police aside from protesting various issues found in and perpetuated by the police force.

But yeah, it will require more people to join that don't reflect systemic issues that beset these various institutions.