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I Think Car Seats And Booster Seats Save Lives

I think that all children 12 and under should be in a 5 point harness car seat 馃捄 when in any vehicle .
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samueltyler280-89, M
I know it wouldn't be popular, but, in my sports car, in the late 60s and onto the 70s my Triumph had 3 point belts.
ArishMell70-79, M
@samueltyler2 Why should that be unpopular? It sounds eminently sensible!
samueltyler280-89, M
@ArishMell it was hard enough to get people to wear any belts.
ArishMell70-79, M
@samueltyler2 There were many arguments about making using seat-belts compulsory in Britain.

The resistance was not to wearing them but to being ordered to wear them, and many used them anyway. Once law though, it did not take long for most people to accept them and wear them as a matter of course, even when back-seat passengers.

I think there are still a few, limited exceptions. It is a bit odd though to see bus-drivers wearing seat-belts when no seat-belts are fitted to any of the passenger seats in most buses.
samueltyler280-89, M
@ArishMell I agree, it has become more common for people to buckle up, and all the seatbelts are three point. You still see reports of fatalities in crashes in which the victim was "ejected." Clearly, those were not wearing theirs.
ArishMell70-79, M
@samueltyler2 Some will break any law they think personally inconvenient and their own breaking them is not apparently hurting others; but is wearing seat-belts compulsory there?

(It is compulsory throughout the UK and Europe.)
samueltyler280-89, M
@ArishMell yes. You can't get a citation just for not wearing one, but if you are pulled over for any other infraction, it can be added on. I am afraid that if the crazies get their way in SCOTUS which is hearing a case that could strip all federal agencies of their power to set such regulations, it will be one of many that will sunset.
ArishMell70-79, M
@samueltyler2 In UK motoring law it is an offence itself, just as are breaking the speed-limit or using a portable 'phone while the vehicle is in motion. So if stopped for one but found to have been doing either or both of the others, that is two or three separate charges.
samueltyler280-89, M
@ArishMell I may have not stated it clearly. It is a law of its own, but it can not stand alone, it must be part of more than one offense. Even if the police sees you are not wearing one, they can not pull you over solely for that. But, if they do pull you over, say for speeding, and you have no belt on, they will cite you for both.
ArishMell70-79, M
@samueltyler2 I see.Thank you.

That's a difference between the two countries' laws then. Here you can be stopped for not wearing a seat-belt, even if your driving is perfectly safe and legal otherwise, as offences can stand alone.
samueltyler280-89, M
@ArishMell that is a major difference. The libertarians here had a partial win on this one.
ArishMell70-79, M
@samueltyler2 Well, I can't relate it to the USA's internal party-politics!

Areas of the Law in the UK covering things like motoring are made fairly consensually in Parliament irrespective of the Parties. The Government and Opposition might argue over details but tend to agree generally, on things that have no partisan significance. Lower-level regulatory powers are often delegated to the Ministries closer to the fields under discussion.
samueltyler280-89, M
@ArishMell things have been nuts in the era of tRump!