It's been banned in Britain for many years but getting the slipper or (worse) the cane was a part of school when I was there. Wondered just how many people got it or still get it at school?
A bit of History trivia for you, due to British Public schools liberal use of caning during the Victorian Era in France amongst escorts and so fourth it was so common for the upper class (yea the ones who'd attended Eaton and Rugby) brits to request to be caned it was actually known euphemistically as "the english vice".
@jennypenny Most of the problems I'm aware of in British schools seem to be due to them imposing petty rules for no good reason. Does it really matter whether a student's shirt is bought from the supermarket or from the school approved suppliers? Yet students are being excluded because their parents can't afford the rip-off prices the school shop or approved supplier charges.
I've visited several European countries and seen virtually no anti-social behaviour in any of them. In the main, young people appear polite and well-educated - despite not having to wear a silly school uniform or be subjected to petty and often vindictive rules.
To be fair, most young people in the UK are polite too, especially if they're shown some respect, but there appears to be a significant amount of anti-social behaviour. My impression is that a lot of it is caused by the way young people are treated by teachers.
@jennypenny I accept that but why don't schools in other European countries suffer the same problems? I believe the answer is the way students are treated. In the rest of Europe they're treated with respect and, as a result, they're respectful back. In the UK, far too many teachers are authoritarian bullies. They could get away with that when they could back it up with force but that appraoch doesn't work now they've been disarmed.
[image deleted]In the era I went to school almost everyone got it at least once. The slipper was in everyday use and a visit to the Headmistress meant six strokes of the cane. I experienced the cane eleven times but I was not unusual.
@SW-User I was the only one in my class at primary school to get the cane, possibly the only one in my year. In secondary school I was the first in my class to get the cane but not the first in my year. I was among the first group in my class the get the slipper in secondary school.
We didn't have that at my school in UK.... either it was banned or they simply didn't have it. It was all girls tho so... the worst punishment was being chucked out
I do completely understand that. Boys have problems and you are no exception. I hope by now you are all sorted and a model member of the community, caring for people and being as kind and nice as you can. 😀
@sarahcupcake I am all of those things, but I am still only human and therefore not perfect. I do try to be as nice and kind as I can, but I don't forgive and forget if someone gets on the wrong side of me. Fortunately that hasn't happened lately. :)
Slipperings were everyday events when I was at school. I doubt I got through many weeks without getting it at least once. The cane wasn't as common but even that was in frequent use.
In my secondary school, the frequency of slippering varied hugely between teachers, which in itself is probably a bit unfair. We all knew who the 'heavy hitters' were, Timetabling and form mistress allocation meant you couldn't avoid them, but if you were pain-averse, you would deliberately set your behaviour level to 11 in their classes. But even with this knowledge, my recollection of how often you would see a girl getting the slipper aligns more with Sharon's experience. And what was it with PE/Sports mistresses! They DID slipper with abandon. @jennypenny
It's not been banned for as long as many people think. Although it was prohibited in state schools in 1986 it continued to be legal in private schools until 1997.
@Oldmanjimbo so much confusion over dates wen cp was banned in English private schools. It was given its first reading in 1987. It passed its final reading late un 1998 but due to an amendment made to the Bill it was not law untill Ist January 2000 but many did dtop using it before this date
@chikki All the people I know who were in school in 1987 said that was when it stopped. But that wasn't in private schools because I don't associate with people who went to private schools, therefore I cannot say for sure when those stopped using it.
Yes, it was still in use during my school days. I didn't get the cane but I had the slipper numerous times for persistently refusing to participate in PE/games.
@NankerPhelge We got slippered wherever we happened to be. The main exception was being sent to the changing room for it - there we got it on the bare.
There was a sort of hard core who got it more than most. I was one of those but, in PE, not one of us escaped it completely.
@Sharon We never got it on the bare in school, always over the seat of our trousers. We never got more than six at a single time either, so it was nothing compared with the spankings I got at home (a couple of dozen with my dad's leather slipper on the bare). That was the main reason why I used to say the school spankings didn't hurt - not so much to try to appear tougher than I really was, but because it was mild compared with my dad's spankings. Lol ;)
@NankerPhelge Most school slipperings were just 2 or 3 through my knickers. Only the PE mistress routinely gave 6 and sometimes on the bare. Like you, at home I always got it on the bare, usually at least a dozen with a couple of dozen being quite common.
@chikki I've double checked and we're both wrong! Section 131 of the Schools Standards and Frameworks Act 1998 was passed on 24 July 1998 and brought into force on 1 September 1999 (if you want to check see the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Commencement No 7 and Saving and Transitional Provisions) Order 1999 (SI 1999/2323))!
@Oldmanjimbo sorry...i stand corrected. I thought it did not come into force until the new year, but it must have started at the start of the new school year. I know where i was deputy and had to administer cp we did end it at the start of the school year in 1999. I did not think it started until the New Year......sorry....I stand corrected but the maIN POINT IS THAT IT WENT ON MUCH LATER THAN SOME PEOPLE THINK and about 13 years after it was abolished in State schools