If you support Israel's occupation and invasion, I have a request

@WintaTheAngle but does that make it morally right? Slaves were bought from native slave traders. Did that mean it was right to own them? The UK (and many, many others) when building their empire traded and worked with native people before colonising ... was that ok? British settled in Ireland and now many generations later these people, regardless of original heritage consider themselves Irish..

The British museum bought artefacts and housed and cared for them.. but some may question whether they have the right to consider they own them

These things are rarely that simple and if there was coercion or exploitation then perhaps ownership is questionable?

@Adaydreambeliever I think those are some extreme and contextually different examples. It’s no different to your government moving you to create a reservoir for example.

@WintaTheAngle Our government took land from Native people and gave it away, while segregating the Natives to smaller areas of land that was the equivalent of a ghetto. It was [b]legal[/b], but immoral.

@bijouxbroussard Okay. Well now that youve decided it’s immoral, and you could well be right, are you going to give back that land? And if so, what would be the moral thing to do about the millions displaced Americans that would create?

It’s one of those situations that just unravels.

@WintaTheAngle The settlers to the new U.S. killed the majority of the Natives over that land. They did this before there even would’ve been millions of Americans to displace. It’s why they see no wrong in the Israeli government killing Palestinians and allowing settlers on the land where they had been.
And I know that if someone had taken my home and given it to people in compensation for horrors they’d experienced that I’d not been a part of, I’d have questions. I’m a descendant of both African slaves and Native people. Imagine, if you will, if someone not even affiliated with our country had come in and decided to break up all those southern plantations and distribute that land to us ? Want to bet that many people who support Israel would [b]not[/b] be okay with that ?

@bijouxbroussard Yes I agree with you. But the point I made (and we’re just having a discussion, not an argument) was now that there have been generations of people living on the land, people born and raised on that land, what is the moral thing to do now?

We’re at a point with Israel-Palestine we’re we have to we have to accept the historical decisions are bad. But we can’t say no to an Israel or no to a Palestine. There had to be a two state solution otherwise you are just saying it’s not okay for one group of people to live in refugee camps but it’s perfectly acceptable for another.

@WintaTheAngle I wish a two-state solution could be achieved that would somehow be fair to all.

@bijouxbroussard Both sides deserve a homeland, neither side has any real commitment to compromise. Our grand children will be discussing this sadly.