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WHERE In the US constitution, is the "two party System" or any reference to the politcal parties can be found.
I cant find one!
I cant find one!
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Ynotisay · M
That's why there's more than two political parties.
SatyrService · M
@Ynotisay Thanks for the Clue!
[i]ALmost[/i] a rhetoical question,
there are only 2 parties, that can achieve signifcant goals. [i]( years in the Libertarians, others, have been educating)[/i]
the usages of congress are all "majority party" "Minority Party" stuff,
I posit that both parties are special interest groups that have Set the rules of the system, to ensure thier own control, with little regard for the constituents.
Why do so many americans, even teachers in class, describe us as a
Two Party System.
Do you know of any mention of political parties at all?
( I need a good digital version)
[i]ALmost[/i] a rhetoical question,
there are only 2 parties, that can achieve signifcant goals. [i]( years in the Libertarians, others, have been educating)[/i]
the usages of congress are all "majority party" "Minority Party" stuff,
I posit that both parties are special interest groups that have Set the rules of the system, to ensure thier own control, with little regard for the constituents.
Why do so many americans, even teachers in class, describe us as a
Two Party System.
Do you know of any mention of political parties at all?
( I need a good digital version)
Ynotisay · M
@SatyrService Maybe Americans say that because they're stupid and don't know? And I doubt that teachers teach that but whatever. Majority and minority is irrelevant when it comes to a two party system. In terms of voting protocal and leadership that would be adjusted in accordance with which party has more votes.
The last I checked we're free to vote for whatever party we want. So maybe the 'alternate' parties just haven't put out a platform and strategy that's been successful. The rules haven't been altered to give two parties an advantage.
No need to be dismissive with the "thanks for the clue" though. You're arguing a false premise. Don't blame me for that.
The last I checked we're free to vote for whatever party we want. So maybe the 'alternate' parties just haven't put out a platform and strategy that's been successful. The rules haven't been altered to give two parties an advantage.
No need to be dismissive with the "thanks for the clue" though. You're arguing a false premise. Don't blame me for that.
SatyrService · M
@Ynotisay was serious about that clue, not being a dick, text is often misleadiing..
on the trail of ideas..
and yeah, for YEARS in the US they DID teach that..
cultural programming here, says that "all third party votes are wasted" and that they can "never win".
and one can only vote for those that are on the ballot, a ballot controled by party iinterests. write ins not withstanding.
I am still forming my premiss, not suggesting one, tho I am interested in proportional representation, and run off voting,
on the trail of ideas..
and yeah, for YEARS in the US they DID teach that..
cultural programming here, says that "all third party votes are wasted" and that they can "never win".
and one can only vote for those that are on the ballot, a ballot controled by party iinterests. write ins not withstanding.
I am still forming my premiss, not suggesting one, tho I am interested in proportional representation, and run off voting,
Ynotisay · M
@SatyrService Then my apologies. You're right. Some things are lost via text.
I think the third party vote being wasted has some legitimacy. At least when it comes to the the left in 2000 with Nader and 2016 with Stein. Those votes cost the Democrats the elections. I'd say they were wasted because I highly doubt those voters preferred Bush and Trump over Gore and Clinton. It's going to take a lot for a third part to really become a player. The Tea Party made some noise but they're pushing an agenda that's more about ideology than governance. I personally think we'll see a true Progressive party down the road that's focused on wealth disparity. That has a message for all Americans. And Sanders showed there's the stomach for that with voters. We'll see.
I think the third party vote being wasted has some legitimacy. At least when it comes to the the left in 2000 with Nader and 2016 with Stein. Those votes cost the Democrats the elections. I'd say they were wasted because I highly doubt those voters preferred Bush and Trump over Gore and Clinton. It's going to take a lot for a third part to really become a player. The Tea Party made some noise but they're pushing an agenda that's more about ideology than governance. I personally think we'll see a true Progressive party down the road that's focused on wealth disparity. That has a message for all Americans. And Sanders showed there's the stomach for that with voters. We'll see.
SatyrService · M
@Ynotisay I like what you say, about a future party, berni style, i wish he was 50 years old! consitant positions across his carrer.
the 2 parties have swapped places a lot,
proportinal representatipon would require as change in the constitution ( see above coneversation with Phrophet.)
you tube
CPG grey, "Politics in the animal Kingdom"
SHORT vids easy to get, offering real alternatives.
the 2 parties have swapped places a lot,
proportinal representatipon would require as change in the constitution ( see above coneversation with Phrophet.)
you tube
CPG grey, "Politics in the animal Kingdom"
SHORT vids easy to get, offering real alternatives.