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I Am An Mra

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"Yes avfm ( a voice for men) is strongly opposed to marriage because the institution of marriage is nothing more than slavery for men. The same can be said for.having children. Father a child in this gynocentric feminist culture is about as smart as playing ba<x>seball with a live grenade. Marriage is worse. Most MRAs who aren't already married vow to never do so. This is why MRAs and MGTOWs are so close. We share that same philosophy."

This kind of puerile crap is exactly why the MRA is a hate group. It attacks fathers and marriage. What exactly does it stand for in a positive way, I wonder?

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Vivagalore

Jack is not addressing the fact that when a mother asked for custody, she had to pay just the same as a father.

So, Given that

" women’s earnings were lower than men's earnings in all states and the District of Columbia according to the Income, Earnings, and Poverty Data From the 2007 American Community Survey by the Census Bureau."

And that

" evidence shows that working women with children make less than women without kids, while having children actually boosts men’s wages"

How is that the mothers manage to find the funding yet according to Jackoffbarnes the fathers cannot ?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2%80%93female_income_disparity_in_the_United_States

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/12/11/3048811/pew-gender-wage-gap/

Furthermore, the cost of a mutually agreed upon custody agreement is the same whether or not the father asks for custody.

Meaning if a Father can afford to get divorced he has already paid for the ability to ask for custody.

Jack un-surprisingly didn't use the link provided to him because he would have realized that more than 90% of custody issues are settled mutually between the two parties, the court merely enforces the agreement the parties decided on, the cost of that is negligible.

The court will not give custody to either a mother or a father without being asked by the parties. FULL STOP. So women aren't being GIVEN children ( and can't legally be given without cause and petition) ,they are ASKING for them. Men are afforded the same entitlements, rights and responsibilities under the law.

This type of failure to understand basic concepts is why Jack needs to educate himself before making such specious claims.

Vivagalore

Child support is part of the custody ruling so all his nonsense (and it's complete nonsense that isn't supported by fact or law...men do not pay 1/2- 2/3 of their income to child support...that's illegal) is completely irrelevant because the support isn't even ordered until after custody is asked for.

Before support can be calculated and ordered, custody must be established and ordered.

Nice try though

Mikemcneil · 61-69, M

Jack isn't interested in actual facts. He believes that no divorced father should pay either alimony or child support. If that father is ordered to contribute financially at all by the courts Jack in another post compares it to legalised "rape".

Vivagalore

P.S. IF either parent wants support, they also have to ask for it.

It isn't granted without cause and petition.

After awarded support isn't even enforced without cause and petition. (meaning if the parent doesn't pay support the other parent must repeatedly ask the court to enforce the payments, the parent asking for the enforcement has to pay all the legal costs associated with establishing cause, petitioning, service and representation)