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I Am An Mra

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"Yes avfm ( a voice for men) is strongly opposed to marriage because the institution of marriage is nothing more than slavery for men. The same can be said for.having children. Father a child in this gynocentric feminist culture is about as smart as playing ba<x>seball with a live grenade. Marriage is worse. Most MRAs who aren't already married vow to never do so. This is why MRAs and MGTOWs are so close. We share that same philosophy."

This kind of puerile crap is exactly why the MRA is a hate group. It attacks fathers and marriage. What exactly does it stand for in a positive way, I wonder?
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JackBarnesMRA
No one said that women are not or cannot be harmed by divorce courts.
However the overwhelming evidence proves that on the whole the divorce courts are bias in women's favor. The majority of people who suffer a severe negative impact from the family courts are men and their children.

Here is the thing. All of the legal and policy changes would benefit women and stop women from becoming victims in the family courts. Of course the majority of people these changes would help would be men but women would he helped too. Yet feminists do everything in their power to prevent change.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
"The majority of people who suffer a severe negative impact from the family courts are men and their children. "

Why do you think children suffer "a severe negative impact" from the family courts?

Children suffer when a relationship ends, agreed, but they do not belong to fathers any more than they belong to others. Divorce reflects the fact that two people can no longer live with with one another for whatever reason. Both those parents should do whatever they can to limit the effects of divorce on their children. Custody battles don't help. Refusing to pay child support doesn't help. Painting the mother as a hard nosed money grabber doesn't help. Men can do a lot to prevent children being negatively affected but they don't. Women have responsibilities too, but they usually end up with custody because men don't oppose it. The main reason men want joint or sole custody is not because they want to look after their children, it's because they don't want to pay child support. Some fathers are good fathers, some mothers are good mothers. I don't see why the MRA and MGTOW dead beat dads should get their selfish way at the expense of their children. If a father wants custody he has to show he is prepared to live up to that responsibility. Same goes for mothers.
JackBarnesMRA
Because the overwhelming majority of children have their relationships with their father severed. Growing up without a father has long term negative social affects.
JackBarnesMRA
" The main reason men want joint or sole custody is not because they want to look after their children, it's because they don't want to pay child support."
Feminist bigotry at its finest.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
How much of that is down to the father's actions?
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
No, it's just the truth. The fathers 4 justice movement here in the UK is a good reminder of that.
bluelady1021
This absolutely IS NOT TRUE. The majority of children still have relationships with their fathers after divorce because the majority of the time joint custody is awarded to the father if he wants it. The only time it isn't is if he doesn't want it, or if he is an abusive father, or a mentally screwed up person (ie. insane, schizophrenic, etc.) or a drug addict or alcoholic, and even if he is a drug addict or alcoholic he can still get joint custody and/or visitation as long as if he can prove he is getting sober and won't be wasted while he is with the kids. Do some research, because if you do you will find out that the majority of fathers get joint custody and/or visitation rights. It is very rare for them not to.
bluelady1021
Look it up, because it absolutely is true. Most fathers won't admit it because it makes them look like bad people, but it becomes pretty obvious, and their kids will point out how obvious it was once they are grown up and start telling people about how their father who received primary custody was rarely ever around with them. They tell people about how he got married and had his new wife care for them, or hired babysitters/nannies/au pairs to care for them, or sent them off to one of his female relatives to be cared for like you have indicated you do with your daughter when your wife is working.
bluelady1021
Having to pay child support and alimony are the two main things most divorced men whine and complain about, and not their failure to get custody (except that also usually means they have to pay child support which pisses them off).
RichardTGere
Actually, that is an easy one Mike (or is it Michelle?). Children suffer from divorce because growing up in a single parent home is abuse in and of itself. Boys who grow up in fatherless households are far more likely to be incarcerated for crimes when they become adults. Girls who grow up in households without a father figure are dozens of time more likely to get pregnant while a teenager. The statistics are there, but it's late and I'm not disposed to do your research for you.
RichardTGere
"Mike" is a woman.
RichardTGere
So...you're saying that even after being raped by the family courts, the ex-wife's misbehavior is still the ex-husband's (who has no control or input on her life) fault?

I'm beginning to understand you, Mike/Michelle...

If an ex-husband pawns his children off on relatives or friends, it's because he is irresponsible and has no right to outside relationships.

OTOH, if an ex-wife pawns her children off on relatives or friends, it's because her ex-husband is irresponsible and she, after all, has a right to outside relationships.

Yep, I'm beginning to understand...You're a lunatic.
RichardTGere
Patently and categorically untrue. A non-custodial parent certainly will not have access to his children if he is a drug addict or alcoholic. The quality of the relationship is always dependent upon the custodial parent's cooperation. Judges rarely - rarely - call to account custodial parents (women) when they deny or frustrate the non-custodial parent's rights. It just doesn't happen.