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"Yes avfm ( a voice for men) is strongly opposed to marriage because the institution of marriage is nothing more than slavery for men. The same can be said for.having children. Father a child in this gynocentric feminist culture is about as smart as playing ba<x>seball with a live grenade. Marriage is worse. Most MRAs who aren't already married vow to never do so. This is why MRAs and MGTOWs are so close. We share that same philosophy."

This kind of puerile crap is exactly why the MRA is a hate group. It attacks fathers and marriage. What exactly does it stand for in a positive way, I wonder?
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JackBarnesMRA
Ladyblue. You are smarter than you pretend to be.
Joe biden said it is never ok to hit a woman. He didn't say "its never ok to hit a woman except in self defense."
See the difference.
Joe is the VP. He was physically abused by his sisters yet he leaves the "except in self defence" part out. He is smart enough to not make a mistake like that so it must be intentional.
We know that DV is 50/50. By creating a PSA that is directed solely at men that tells them to never hit a woman (even in self defence) he is saying the following:
Women aren't equal to men. Women deserve special protection from violence even when they are the aggressor. This is misogyny because it reinforces the idea that women are week and shouldn't be held accountable for their actions. It is also misandry because of the same double standard. He is saying that if a woman attacks a man he should just take it. It is also misandry because he is pretending that male victims of DV don't exist.
By this PSA he has proven that he doesn't see men and women as equals.

He is an idiot because he knows that women can be just as violent as men because he experienced it himself.

He is the textbook definition of a mangina.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
"He is the textbook definition of a mangina."

Is that the special MRA textbook you keep by your bunk, Jack?

Why do you think anyone cares about a slip-up by Joe Biden? Joe Biden didn't create this PSA, did he?

You extrapolate a completely different meaning from a set of words that mean the opposite. "By creating a PSA that is directed solely at men that tells them to never hit a woman (even in self defence) he is saying the following:
Women aren't equal to men. Women deserve special protection from violence even when they are the aggressor. This is misogyny because it reinforces the idea that women are week and shouldn't be held accountable for their actions."

That is just your version of what the PSA says. Your opinion, your twisted sad bitter opinion. Domestic violence affects both sexes, sure, but equally, not at all. How many women are killed by domestic violence as opposed to men? That's not 50/50 like in your dream world, Jack. All domestic violence is wrong. All people deserve protection from domestic violence, and they can get it under existing laws. Women don't get a free ride to hit men without responsibility for their actions, just like men shouldn't. Men used to though, back in the days when a man couldn't be charged with raping his wife because she was his property. Do you want to go back to those days, Jackie boy?
JackBarnesMRA
Did you know that when a woman gets someone else to kill her husband it isn't counted as DV in the statistics.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Answer the question. Do you want to go back to the days when married women were legally raped and abused?
JackBarnesMRA
My opinion is based on logic. You however seem to be unable to refute my claim using the same.
If the genders had been reversed would you be saying the same thing? If the PSA had been directed at women and only women would you be saying the same thing? Do you want equality or not?
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Answer my question Jack.
JackBarnesMRA
No I don't. Stop asking me moronic stupid questions.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
So you agree the laws had to be changed to protect women from their husbands then?
JackBarnesMRA
Where have I ever given you any indication that I would? I never have. Stopping pulling bullshit out of your ass just because I made you look like a bigoted fool. It only makes you look worse.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
You don't get it Jack. It used to be legal for a man to rape his wife. A a rape apologist you think women can be held to blame for their rape. This is important stuff. The law used to be on your side. Then it changed to become fair, didn't it?
JackBarnesMRA
The laws did need to be changed. What you fail to comprehend is why those laws existed in the first place. Women sold thier reproductive ability to men in exchange for hiw protection and provision. Men sold their excess resource gathering ability to women in exchange for women's reproductive ability.
The laws have been changed so that men do not own a woman's reproductive ability. But women still own a man's resource gathering ability even after divorce. She gets most all the resources he has provided for her and gets to continue to reap the benefits after the marriage has been dissolved. The way it was men owned women's sexuality because he paid for it. Women owned men's labor because she paid for it.
The way it is now is that men do not own women's reproductive ability but women still own mens labor.
When ever I have said that women should own men's labor (child support and alimony) you have said that they should.
Interesting. Not really. You are a feminist after all.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
The law was changed becuse it was unfair and oppressed married women. Why do you think that women still own mens labour after divorce? Men have a responsibility when they marry someone, They can't just walk away from that responsibility without a fair division of resources after a marriage breakdown. It's nothing to do with blame or ownership. Alimony and child support are fair concepts. You don't think so because you want men to shirk all financial responsibility for their marriages and their children. When you get divorced yourself you will be a deadbeat dad too.
JackBarnesMRA
Should women have the same responsibilities as men?
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
They should and they do have after a divorce. If the man gets custody and woman is a higher earner she will be assessed for child support and alimony in the same way as a man is. Do you have a problem with that? Seems fair and equal to me.
JackBarnesMRA
Should an adult have responsibility for another adult that is their equal after divorce? If so, why?
JackBarnesMRA
Let explain this a different way.
It wasn't illegal because a person cannot be charged for stealing something he paid for.
Now it is illegal.
Women can't be charged with stealing the money her husband works for because its hers. That was true then and its still true today. My wife could empty my bank account and leave and she wouldn't be stealing according to the law.
You said the law was changed so that it is now fair. For the reasons above I disagree. If we are going to make martial rape illegal then a woman shouldn't have any right to man's income. Then it would ne fair.
JackBarnesMRA
I have answered your questions. Now answer mine.
If the genders had been reversed would you be saying the same thing? If the PSA had been directed at women and only women would you be saying the same thing? Do you want equality or not?
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
So what do you see about marriage that is good?

You are such a hypocrit.
You could empty your joint bank account as well. Is that any fairer? If she puts money into a marriage it is classed as joint funds. Why do you think a man's income should just belong to him if he is married? Have you signed a pre-nuptial yourself?
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Marital rape should be illegal full stop and it is. What has it got to do with money. You love rapists Jack. You believe a married man owns his wife. You are a relic of the past and you know it. But worst of all you say one thing and do another.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Because in choosing to marry that person a man expected her to contribute jointly to the marriage. Let's take you for example. How much childcare do you provide on your long truck journeys? Not a lot, I guess. But because your wife does it for free she can't have a full time job herself. You are so fucking ridiculous....just like most misogynists.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
Iactually wish there was some way your wife and daughter could be made aware of the venomous female hating shit that you post on here. I am not talking about your insane hatred of feminists, but your hatred of all women. You are a nasty piece of shit Jack Barnes.
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
The PSA is gender anonymous. You have been made aware of that and still you refuse to accept that as a fact. I believe and want equality for all, men and women. You just want the right for men to have no responsibilities for their actions. You are a confirmed rape apologist and woman hater. The PSA is directed at all domestic violence perpetrators. The laws against domestic violence in your country apply to both men and women. Earlier on this story you stated that men had a right to rape their wives because they financially owned their wives. You stated that men shouldn't pay alimony unless they had the right to rape their wife. You stated that would be only fair. This is your twisted warped sickness. You believe marriage is just an exchange of services. You have stated that repeatledy. Do you hit Mrs Barnes Jack? Do you have a right to because your trucking wage pays the bills? Is that really how a modern American male should conduct his life?
Mikemcneil · 61-69, M
"Women sold their reproductive ability to men in exchange for his protection and provision. Men sold their excess resource gathering ability to women in exchange for women's reproductive ability."

That is Jack's reasoning for why it was ok to rape your wife back in the bad old days..... Unbelievable!?
JackBarnesMRA
Yes she does have a full time job.
JackBarnesMRA
Just sent her an link to this post.
JackBarnesMRA
I never said it was ok. I said that is why the law was written the way it was.
Idiot.