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I Have a Daughter

How To Find The Right Guy - A Conversation With My Daughter

On one of those long drive-my-15 year-old-daughter-to-basketball drives, watch her play and drive home again, we got talking about how you pick the right guy. I mean, you see women everywhere making really stupid mistakes, getting hurt to the core of their being, repeating the mistakes with another guy... you hear people talk about love like it's some mystical feeling that comes along all by itself. This is one of the few talks I ever made sure happened, because... I'm her dad, and i didn't want her hurt, wanted to give her more insight than most girls seem to have. I can't remember what i said word for word, but it was something like this:

A lot of girls end up picking the wrong guy. It must be pretty scary - like - how do you know who he really is? Because when a guy is wanting to impress you, he's on his best behaviour, right? So you're not going to know what he's really like until he doesn't think he needs to impress you any more. By then, it's a little too late. In-between, you've fallen in love, and love tends to not notice what's wrong, so even if there are warning signs, you'll probably ignore them. Seriously. You just... close your eyes and don't notice faults once you're in love. We all do. So you need to know what to look for early on, before you get too emotionally entangled.

So... how do you pick the right guy?

Well, there's one thing probably to look for more than anything else.... (drive a little bit in silence for emphasis). It's actually about ...character. I mean, there are lots of things that attract us to someone, like: looks, personality, charm, physique, (I think i said 'abs' because she was always talking about guys with 'abs'), intelligence, being funny.. and those things are great. I mean, you do have to have chemistry, right? But the chemistry, and none of these things are enough to make a relationship work in the long run. In the end, none of these things will be enough to hold your respect and love. In the end, it is the person's character you end up loving or despising. Personality isn't character - don't be fooled. A person can have a nice manner, but be selfish underneath. Personality is just the way you present yourself. Character is the kind of person you are under the surface. Honest or sneaky. Selfish or self-giving. Live by principles or take anything they can get. Self-centred or caring. Take responsibility or avoid it. Always do the right thing or always appears to do the right thing. You can't continue to love someone who is fundamentally selfish and treats you like shyte.

Ok, so how do you tell someone's character? Well, that's the tricky bit. Because when someone is trying to impress you, they are on their best behaviour, right? So they're gonna be completely charming, look like they're almost selfless, giving, kind, considerate, devoted only to you, because... they want to win you. They might even think they mean it. It's only once they have you and begin to take you for granted that their real character starts to be revealed: dishonest, unfaithful, selfish, emotionally immature, manipulative...

So if they're on their best behaviour, how can you tell their character?

You have to watch them when they aren't aware. So... watch the way they treat people who they think are unimportant. Ex-girlfriends. Watch the way they treat family members. Watch the way they treat their mother. Are they always respectful, generous, considerate, thoughtful? Are they always honest? Do they know how to admit they're wrong, even if they're only partly wrong? Then this is probably what you're going to get.

Do they can treat anyone in their life as dirt? Then they can do that to you one day. And probably will. If they lie when they think they won't get caught, then they aren't honest. They'll do it to you. You need to see past the charm, the best behaviour, those masculine good looks... because none of those things can keep your respect and love in the long run.
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I don't know how to pick a good guy,don't even know if I WANT a good guy. I really wanna know how employers think, with all their paranoia about YOU, they will get good employees. I think life in general is pretty much the same.

If you wanna put on a big paranoid act you probably won't really get what you want, in fact I have a feeling that if pushed too far...KARMA itself will give the pusher exactly the thing he/she is tying reject.
@Elevatorpitches trust issues are a major complication, without it theres really no basis for a relationship.

See relationships are inherently a risk laden process, and I am personally neck deep in that if things go badly I will be heartbroken worse than I ever have been at this point.

its been pointed out that relying on others for your happiness is a bad idea and I dont disagree, humans will always disappoint, they might not always break your heart but even when you fall in love with someone no one is perfect.

not even perfect in the kind of way like fits me perfectly.

One thing it does teach you is to love them anyways. I am VERY adamantly against the idea that everything was meant to be or that there is such a thing as relationship destiny though.

It might feel that way sometimes but our feelings mislead us sometimes.
@BetweenKittensandRiots Life itself is really way too "complicated" for me.

I have one choice now...go with it or fight it.


But I do believe Chomsky when he talks abut reality. I will try to connect with the few intact people left in the world...to work on real problems...if they think I'm up to it.

I want a GENERAL strike in America and maybe the world. For a SANE FAIR economy and sane politics to match...

I want people to throw their fears about each other...in the fuc*ing toilet for a month every year and after 5 years it should happen every day.

I want people to know that fur babies are family too so hands OFF if you want me to respect your children and your personal rights. Neighbors who kill their neighbor's pets will NEVER be forgiven unless you explain your subhumanity in a way I can understand and eventually try to understand BETTER.

I will HAVE to move to a more humane country if I want ANY meaningful medical care ever. So if you know about how two living more cheaply than one, let me know if you wanna travel together...and don't say you'd like to "but", just be clear or you wll not be reaching me.
@Elevatorpitches you would like the person I chose as my partner....

to be clear too Im one of the few that basically ended up with exactly what I wanted. a lot of sour songs about loving what you have.

you sound a lot like her. Youre both calling for exactly the same actions.
@BetweenKittensandRiots Loving what you have WHILE tryng to get what you want is like doing Buddhism on steroids. Its harder for people like us. We have more BS to begin with.
@Elevatorpitches straight up, and more to the point its rare that we end up with first pick for people like us.

of course thats everyones ideal and no one wants to win because you couldnt have the one you wanted.
@BetweenKittensandRiots Well at my age, I no longer think about firsts..on any level...except maybe dying and intolerable pain and stuff still definitely in my future.

I just don't want a bed-mate anymore. I would kick them out for encroaching on my space.
@Elevatorpitches im just autistic...

I have challenges enough, everythings more difficult.

not dying, not in serious pain.

Although I feel for you. its not infrequent that I wonder why the world wanted to make everything so fucking hard for ANYONE, much less me.
@BetweenKittensandRiots I'm just someone who knows labels start substituting when we are not accepted just because we are.

So I am..."invisible"

...an unlabled nobody. Need more money too.
@Elevatorpitches I have a philosophical stance on labels that is basically hers: [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqKG-Djfk5w]

a label doesnt fully define me but it doesnt have to to be useful.
@BetweenKittensandRiots I am a little reluctant to watch this...
I am listening to Chris Hedges.

I also cherish children and felt marginalized all my life cause I could never afford to bring them up well so I never had any. No man around to help me EVER change my mind.
@Elevatorpitches To put it bluntly I find the phobia around labeling to be silly to be honest no one who openly identifies with a label is looking to be defined entirely by that label. I am a lot of things identity wise and a very multifaceted person but if a label fits at times and I find it useful I will identify with that label.
@BetweenKittensandRiots My mother wouldn't go through it again if she had the choice