I Am Interested In Politics

@SumKindaMunster mate, you can bet your bottom that if it's tax reductions for the rich, reducing workers rights, deregulating markets, drilling for oil in the arctic (Obama says yes sir), illegal foreign policy, updating nuclear bombs (Obama says yes sir), banging up whistleblowers and throwing away the key (Obama says yes sir) etc etc the democrats will be fully in board, no gridlock there.

Your two parties are broken (from their original purpose, to represent the people) and almost identical. But, at least the democrats have some progressive points that normal people can organise around......unfortunately it seems like the republican party has become a full on cult.

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@MasterLee shouldn't throw stones in glass houses

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@gol979 Let me guess "mate". You aren't American. Forgive me if I choose to ignore your perspective as all you know is what your media tells you.

You'll note that I did not advocate for either party, I merely suggested people vote in THEIR best interests, not the interests of either party, nor the interests of some shill for the Democrat party.

@MasterLee again, you have a point with cheap labour and the issues that this causes and we.should be able to have an adult conversation about this, without bringing pigmentation into it but you are living in planet mars if you think the republicans don't manipulate cheap (slave) labour just as much as the democrats.......we can do better as a society but you aren't going to get that from either the republicans or democrats

@gol979 i choose the lesser of two tax eaters.

@SumKindaMunster you are correct, I'm from the UK and as you can see I am no fan of either of your main parties........yes you do say vote in their interests but where is your scathing comments about republicans in your nonpartisan diatribe?

@MasterLee ok, so you agree that both parties are pretty much the same and don't represent the normal person?

@gol979 I disagree with many of the rights policies but the liberals are the primary concern currently. Then we can work on the rinos.

@MasterLee who and what do you mean by liberals?

@gol979 lol

@gol979 I chose to focus on the Dems as this poster is clearly advocating for them.

This isn't a political ad, I don't have to offer equal time to the opposite viewpoint.

What do you care anyway? Clearly you have a lot of contempt for politics in America, but you aren't American so I am struggling to understand why you are bothering to rebut people here.

@gol979 We have to work with what we have. The Democratic party isn't perfect, but when you are washed overboard and you find a life-raft you don't say " I don't like the color of this raft, I don't like the shape. Screw it, I won't use it" No, you get on that raft! Because you'll drown if you don't. Of course, some Democrats have made mistakes, but they have also done a lot of things right. Given the choices, I'll vote for the Democrats gladly.

@badminton unfortunately the current bunch only makes mistakes and moves more left. The liberals hijacked your party. Grab the red raft before you drown.

@SumKindaMunster does it really matter that I comment and aren't from your neck of the woods? If it wasn't that then it would be something else, like the media I read (that you've already mentioned).

And yes, I do have contempt for structures and institutions of power and how they work here and in your country. If it was contained to just out countries then it wouldn't be as bad but we love to export our "exceptionalism".

[quote] does it really matter that I comment and aren't from your neck of the woods? [/quote]

No, it doesn't "matter", but when I see someone lazily putting me down for expressing encouragement for people to vote for their interests, you can expect me to have something to say in rebuttal.

I don't really know what to tell you. I've explained why I've chosen to respond in the way I did.

You've made it clear you think corruption makes this an exercise in futility so I guess I would say that's your prerogative.

But that doesn't mean I agree.

@badminton but you are almost voting for the same interests. Trumpkins maybe very course and his "act" unpalatable but really be isn't much different from what the dems have thrown up.......in fact the reason that he is in the white house is because of the faux liberal democrats

@MasterLee In the past, while I disagreed with Republicans, I didn't doubt their patriotism. That's changed. The current Republican party has throw aside all morality and caution and is now headed on a very dangerous course toward authoritarianism, whipping up hate and fear toward immigrants and people of color, calling the media "the enemy of the people", collaborating with hostile foreign powers. This is treasonous behavior. I deeply regret it has come to this. it is past time to put a stop to this now. Vote Democrat November 6th.

@SumKindaMunster you're a well spoken dude but I wasn't lazily putting you down......you're acting as a neutral but your bias is plain to see and hence a little disingenuous

@SumKindaMunster Listening to the perspective of people from other countries is rewarding. A person can learn much about their own country by seeing it from a different point of view.

@gol979 [quote]your bias is plain to see and hence a little disingenuous[/quote]

I've already addressed this in a previous comment. See below:

[quote]I chose to focus on the Dems as this poster is clearly advocating for them.[/quote]

Speaking of bias, here is a portion of your first comment to me:

[quote]But, at least the democrats have some progressive points that normal people can organise around......unfortunately it seems like the republican party has become a full on cult.
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It would seem you are a bit biased yourself, no?

@badminton I think its disgusting that you continue the ruinous strategies of the Democrats by focusing on "identity politics". This is part of the reason there is such a divide in America.

Why choose to focus on only women in this post? Shouldn't you encourage ALL citizens to vote? Also, how dare you co-opt "Wonder Woman" as an advocate for the Democrats. You get permission to do that?

Finally this paragraph is pure Democrat propaganda, there is nothing non-partisan about it.

[quote]The current Republican party has throw aside all morality and caution and is now headed on a very dangerous course toward authoritarianism, whipping up hate and fear toward immigrants and people of color, calling the media "the enemy of the people", collaborating with hostile foreign powers. This is treasonous behavior. I deeply regret it has come to this. it is past time to put a stop to this now. Vote Democrat November 6th.

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At least admit you are shilling for the Democrat party. You are nothing but a hack carrying water for the Democrats. I hope they are at least paying you....

@badminton I totally agree, and that is one of the things I really appreciate about SW. You get perspective from a lot of different people from different countries.

Doesn't mean you have to agree with everything they say....

@SumKindaMunster We have a difference of opinion here. In my view the Democrats are the only party working for all the citizens of the country. The Republicans only represent the wealthy. So of course, I'm going to campaign for the Democrats. Its called freedom of speech. It is also your right advocate for whatever candidates you wish. Just don't be surprised when I do the same.