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I Sometimes Wonder What the Hell Is Wrong With People

[center][big]Rape is Natural … really?!?[/big][/center]


Well, this is actually my second attempt at writing this story. The first didn't meet EP's community guidelines and my appeal was unsuccessful. However, EPKimi told me to resubmit so here I am. I suspect the reason the first story was rejected was that I quoted extensively from the EP conversation that prompted me to write this story in the first place. Therefore I've removed most of those quotes and replaced them with a link to where you can find the original conversation (for as long as EP allows such filth to stay in place).

So what is all this about you ask? Well, I met someone on EP a few weeks ago by the name of Pywacket. His views on life could not be more different than mine, which, if you know me, means I wanted to understand him better. He posted a story describing a hypothetical future proof (in the form of a news article) that God does not exist. In his story, he asks Christians, “What will you do then?” So I responded, as I often do on this subject. If you want to read the original story by Mr Pywacket and all the story comments in context, go here: <a href="http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Believe-In-God/5627569" target="ep_blank">EP Link</a>

What followed was 179 pages worth of comments filled with hatred and venom and false claims and just unbelievable animosity toward anyone, especially me, that professed any faith in the Christian God. That’s fine. I run into attitudes like this every day here on campus; I’m used to it. But then Mr Pywacket started digging through my profile and for some reason latched onto my story from 2012 about my ex-boyfriend trying to force me to have sex.

He took excerpts from my 2012 story and its comments and started including them in his responses. Yup, in our discussion on whether or not God existed and whether or not Christianity was a vile and wicked faith, he started sprinkling in disgusting references to that day. I allowed myself to get way too involved in that conversation and I have since pulled out of the conversation completely. However, I need to draw attention to one aspect of it, because I have heard this same attitude toward sexual assault here on campus as well and it concerns me.

There is actually a school of thought out there that we are all just animals anyway and rape is part of the natural order. Yup, you read that right. I have heard these words uttered in person by guys standing in front of me. Of course, in person, such people profess that they would never do such a thing and that societal constructs prohibiting such behavior are mostly a good thing, but that it is none-the-less part of the natural order. Yup. I’ve had these conversations with guys. It’s scary.


It’s scary because it accepts that sexual assault is inevitable and natural and simply part of being the animal that we all are. I don’t want to put words in Mr Pywacket's mouth, so here are a couple of excerpts:
-- “If you weren't such an ignorant religious fanatic you would understand that a hard-wired biological imperative millions of years in the making, and passed down through the evolution of the species was driving his thoughts, his speech, and his actions. And there isn't a damn thing wrong with it. Your body is 'designed' through evolution to be raped and survive it.”
-- “Nature rewards female for being raped.”
-- “Not that long ago, he would have ignored your protests and simply overpowered you, as men have done for 200,000 years. And you would have gotten over it, and wanted him to do it again and again and again.”
-- “Had he accomplished the rape, you would have been all upset because of your beliefs, but you would also have the memory of how good it felt.”


Yes, folks, you read that right:
-- my body was designed through evolution to be raped,
-- nature rewards me for it,
-- if my ex-boyfriend had been successful I’d have wanted it (rape) again and again,
-- and I would have been left with fond memories
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In my original story I stopped about here intending to let you, the reader, draw your own conclusions and to hopefully start a dialog. However, I’ve since had another week of interaction with Mr Pywacket. In this extra fun-filled week, he has expressed some observations specifically about childhood sexual assault. He gets offended when I call them opinions or beliefs or even conclusions. They are simply his observations of fact. These next quotes (below) come from comments he made on my story about my love for my girlfriend: <a href="http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Want-To-Find-My-Soulmate/5672914" target="ep_blank">EP Link</a>

The story comments drifted far from anything remotely related to the original post and it bothers me that a story like this is ruined by this type of crap. I am very close to violating one of my personal standards here on EP and just going and deleting all his comments on that story. For now, they are there. So here you go, Mr Pywacket on the topic of childhood sexual abuse:
-- “So the millions of girls who had sex with adults and DIDN'T have your experience are all lying? The millions who did NOT have health problems? The millions who loved the sex? The millions who looked forward to it? All wrong?”
-- “I have told you to go to Pandora's and read what the experts have to say. About the girls who had sex starting when they were very very young ... and loved it. And didn't want it to stop. Little girls who instigated it. Initiated it. Yes, they even knew they shouldn't be doing it. But they wanted to. And they did it for years. And never got caught.”
(These comments were directed to some else, not me, who had survived childhood sexual abuse.)
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So where does this leave us? How do we respond to attitudes like this? And when I say “we”, I am not referring to “Christians” or to “Humanists”; I am referring to any of us that believe in a just society. I am referring to any of us that believes we all, as human beings, have a right to feel secure in our surroundings.


I currently live on a fairly well known, northeastern USA university campus. My school goes to great lengths to ensure that we all know how to be safe because there is an unacceptable level of sexual violence on American campuses, but that doesn’t even compare to what is happening around the world.
-- We are now one year out from the kidnapping and sexual enslavement of the 200+ school girls in Nigeria by Boko Haram. I hope you’ve tweeted the hash tag: #BringBackOurGirls. I did. Many times. And will continue to.
-- When ISIS stormed Yazidi Iraq, many of the men were forcibly converted to Islam but the girls were sold into sexual slavery to be raped again and again. I wonder how many of them have fond memories of their rapes as Mr Pywacket would have us believe.


I am posting this simply to raise awareness and spur discussion. I think Mr Pywacket’s perspective on and attitude toward rape is dangerous. If he were an isolated voice, then I wouldn't give it another thought, but, as I stated above, I hear this attitude here on campus. I think it is partially behind the problem we have on American university campuses now. Sexual assault is treated by some as inevitable or excusable or simply part of the human condition. Treating it as such lessens the strength of the “society constructs prohibiting such behavior” and essentially encourages it. Yup, this is just my opinion and I have no data to back it up, but I do believe attitudes like Pywacket’s to be very dangerous.


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PYWACKET
Sara ......


So what is all this about you ask? Well, I met someone on EP a few weeks ago by the name of Pywacket. His views on life could not be more different than mine, which, if you know me, means I wanted to understand him better. He posted a story describing a hypothetical future proof (in the form of a news article) that God does not exist. In his story, he asks Christians, “What will you do then?” So I responded, as I often do on this subject. If you want to read the original story by Mr Pywacket and all the story comments in context, go here: EP Link


PY ......


Sara was attempting to hijack the thread. I stated up front it was a HYPOTHETICAL scenario:


What would Christians do if it was proved god did not exist?


IF THIS IS TRUE, WHAT WILL YOU DO DIFFERENTLY

TOMORROW ... IF ANYTHING?

WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH NO GOD?

CAN YOU LIVE WITHOUT PURPOSE?

WITHOUT MEANING?

WITHOUT HEAVEN TO LOOK FORWARD TO?

WILL YOU GIVE UP? END YOUR LIFE?

WITH NO THREAT OF ETERNAL PUNISHMENT

WILL YOU BECOME AMORAL?

OR WILL YOU LEARN TO ACCEPT THIS NEW REALITY?

AND SEEK NEW PURPOSE AND MEANING IN LIFE?

WILL YOU LEARN TO APPRECIATE LIFE?

TO TREASURE THIS LIFE YOU HAVE?


Science is seeking the origin of matter. Right now.

Today's hypothesis could be tomorrow's reality.

What will you do?

~ from PY's OP.


I had created the hypothetical scenario in response to the many claims Christians make about atheists, such as having no purpose, being amoral, etc.


I posed reasonable and valid questions ....


I guess Sara was disturbed by the questions and began arguing that I had not proved god did not exist, apparently out of concern that some idiot might read the OP and think it was real.


Her first post:


"It is interesting that the second question after your hypothetical news story is, "WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH NO GOD?" I read your "news" story and see nothing in it that either proves nor disproves the existence of our Creator. It simply describes what people of faith would call the mechanism of His Creation; what an atheist would call a random occurrence."

God can never and will never be proven or disproven on this Earth until He himself decides to reveal His existence. Quite simply, for us here in this world, He is a matter of faith. You either believe or you don't.

I wish you well on your journey through life. ~ SaraBees95


What Sara did here is commonly known as 'trolling'. She was clearly not being responsive to the hypothetical questions posed in the OP. Furthermore, she made unsupported positive assertions, claiming the existence of God can never be proven or disproven ... but WILL be proven when (the presumed to exist) God decides to reveal His existence.


Proselytizing.


It was a HYPOTHETICAL scenario. Sara kind of forgets to mention she was being a troll.


Sara ......


What followed was 179 pages worth of comments filled with hatred and venom and false claims and just unbelievable animosity toward anyone, especially me, that professed any faith in the Christian God.


PY ......


Well, that's not exactly true, either. Considering the fact that she was a troll, I was actually very patient with her. At first.


This was my response to her trolling:


"On the contrary, the news story 'proves' no intelligence was involved at all. Rather, what we see today is the end (or current) product of completely natural processes. No god 'willed' the earth into existence, or 'popped' humans onto the earth.
Unquestionably, for the universe, and us to be 'created', an intellect of supernatural power and proportions would be necessary.
The process described in the news story requires no intelligence at all, and no supernatural intervention." ~ PY


So where is the hatred and venom and false claims?


IT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL. HELLO?


Sara ......


That’s fine. I run into attitudes like this every day here on campus; I’m used to it. But then Mr Pywacket started digging through my profile and for some reason latched onto my story from 2012 about my ex-boyfriend trying to force me to have sex.


PY ......


Once again, Sara is not being truthful. She went through MY stories FIRST, trying to find a weakness to exploit. And she thought she found one ...


She took a statement I made OUT OF CONTEXT, and insisted that I actually believed there was a Christian God. I made several attempts to correct her, explaining how she obviously had MISSED prior comments in that story, but she had it stuck in her head that she had 'exposed' my belief in God.


Since she had dug through MY stories, I was certainly within protocol to dig through HER stories. I didn't pull her story about her boyfriend for NO reason. She OPENED the door when she brought up her devastatingly traumatic 'attempted rape'.


Having read what she had actually been DOING with her boyfriend for MONTHS, any reasonable, halfway intelligent person would have looked at her claims of trauma as being patently ABSURD.


Now I explained to Sara EXACTLY why I brought it up, why it was relevant and germane, but she seems to have forgotten all of that.


I don't think I'm going to waste much more of my time on this, as Sara can't seem to tell the truth, and she will just delete this as soon as she sees it anyway.


To Sara's many supporters, with only a couple of exceptions, you are stupid, crude, and dishonest. Exceptions being Sarah and ... ? Ok, I'm not going to include Woden, as he clearly has a decent streak. Thank you again for your kind words. And again, I apologize for mine. Sara deleted my prior apology.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
I'm a troll now? Wow, that's ripe.
Let me just make sure I understand this. YOU joined a group saying "I believe in God". This is a group I am in and in which I read many beautiful stories of faith. Then YOU post a story in this group professing your faith. Or wait, no, your story didn't profess your faith as the title would imply. Instead, it challenged the faith of the group. And I am the troll?


Your story solicited responses from people of faith, so I responded. I didn't hijack your thread, I responded to it as you requested. I felt your premise was flawed and I said so, but I did eventually answer your question. You do remember that, right? Then, in the nearly 200 pages of replies you posted to my comments, I saw two basic points: 1) God is a myth and does not exist, and 2) God is evil. Obviously, you can't hold both views. So, I went exploring through your profile in an attempt to understand you. And yes, you had statements in other stories that seemed to indicate a deep anger at God or, maybe more accurately, a belief that He is evil. So I pointed this out and asked for clarification which you still have not provided.


What you did with my profile was very different Py. You found a story in which I describe the day my ex-boyfriend tried to force me to have sex. In your comments about that day you stated among other things that 1) my vagina is not sacred (I never said it was), 2) if my boyfriend had succeeded I would have enjoyed it and wanted more, and 3) I was stupid for being naked with him in the first place (a charge I have never disagreed with). Please explain for me what any of that had to do with our conversation? I know you say you already explained the connection, but for the life of me I simply cannot understand how that day was in any way related to a discussion on God's existence. (Your profile also contained elements of personal pain and I thought it would be inappropriate for me to interject that into our conversation, so instead I privately prayed for you.)


Then, when I state my views, WHICH YOU SOLICITED, you say I am proselytizing. What exactly is it you are doing Py? If your presence here on EP is not proselytizing, then I don't know what is. Every time I use terms like "our Creator" you claim I am doing something wrong or offending you. You would rather I use the language of an atheist. Sorry, I am not an atheist. I know this fact offends you and for that I am sorry, but I'd rather offend you than our Creator.


I've told you (and have previously written on EP) that I support a secular society. Each of us has the right to believe or not believe as he or she wishes. And, each of us in a free society has the obligation to support that right among our fellow citizens. You have every right to espouse your views here on EP and anywhere else you'd like. And I assert my right to publicly disagree with those views (which was the purpose of this original story). Engaging in public discourse does not make either one of us a troll, especially when that discourse was solicited. However, stating "I believe in God" as you did and then posting a story challenging the faith of others clearly does.


Be well Py.
PYWACKET
Yes you were the troll. Sara, that is one of the more idiotic things you have said. Was I supposed to go to the ATHEISTS and pose the question "What if science had proved there was no God? How would you react?"


That would be rather stupid, wouldn't it? THEY already don't believe in God. Of COURSE I am going to go to the Christians if I want to ask the Christians these questions.


Get a grip.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
Yes, I know. You went into a CHRISTIAN group and declared that you believe in God and then proceeded to post a story affirming your atheism and challenging the beliefs of the people in that group who did nothing but seek to share their faith with other people of faith. If you don't see the very definition of troll in these actions then you need a dictionary.
PYWACKET
S) Your story solicited responses from people of faith, so I responded.


P) Responses to the question. Lol. God you are incredible.


S) I didn't hijack your thread, I responded to it as you requested.


P) Umm, no you didn't. It was a hypothetical scenario. You did not just pretend it was real and answer the questions as if it was real.


S) I felt your premise was flawed and I said so


P) Of course it was 'flawed'. It was just a HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO. Lol.


S) but I did eventually answer your question. You do remember that, right?


P) No you didn't. You didn't put yourself in the frame of mind required for the HYPOTHETICAL scenario.


S) Then, in the nearly 200 pages of replies you posted to my comments, I saw two basic points: 1) God is a myth and does not exist, and 2) God is evil. Obviously, you can't hold both views.


P) Wow. Still stuck on that, are you? What a brain twister for you. I have explained the flaw in your reasoning a dozen times. It's too stupidly simple. Clearly you don't get it. I am going to have to go with "willful ignorance". A child of 5 could get it. You are on your own on this. Telling you how you are wrong 13 times isn't going to make a difference.


S) So, I went exploring through your profile in an attempt to understand you. And yes, you had statements in other stories that seemed to indicate a deep anger at God or, maybe more accurately, a belief that He is evil.


P) LOLOLOL. OMG. God nobody can be this obtuse. It's not humanly possible. IF HE WAS REAL, HE WOULD BE EVIL. YOU people think he is real. FOR THE THIRTEENTH TIME!!!! Lol.


S) So I pointed this out and asked for clarification which you still have not provided.


P) Just provided it again Sara. I have said the same thing to you over and over. YOU PEOPLE ... CHRISTIANS ... think he is real. Holy mother of god.


In your minds, your god is PERFECT. All I did was show you how YOUR god was not very perfect at all. I just pointed out some very sick, evil things he did. ACCORDING TO YOUR BIBLE.

I know he didn't do any of that crap. He isn't REAL. Lol. Seriously. There's a bit of a problem here.


Now WHY do you suppose I would want to show you how evil your perfect god is? Hmm?


Can you think of a reason? I kind of think you can't. All hail to the power of indoctrination.
PYWACKET
S) What you did with my profile was very different Py. You found a story in which I describe the day my ex-boyfriend tried to force me to have sex. In your comments about that day you stated among other things that 1) my vagina is not sacred (I never said it was), 2) if my boyfriend had succeeded I would have enjoyed it and wanted more, and 3) I was stupid for being naked with him in the first place (a charge I have never disagreed with). Please explain for me what any of that had to do with our conversation? I know you say you already explained the connection, but for the life of me I simply cannot understand how that day was in any way related to a discussion on God's existence. (Your profile also contained elements of personal pain and I thought it would be inappropriate for me to interject that into our conversation, so instead I privately prayed for you.)


P) I brought it up for the same reason you brought up my alleged contradiction.


You were trying to discredit me. Period. Not my first rodeo Sara. Don't waste your time denying it. You kept hounding me to tell you why I was mad at God.


"What happened in your childhood PY that turned you from God?"


You were trying to support your "PY is angry at God for something" theory. Which, had you been able to prove it, would have neutered my entire argument.


"OOOOhhhh. PY has a vendetta against God. PY is angry at God."


"Never mind folks!! Nothing to see here. Move along. PY's just mad at God."


I just discredited you back. That's all. You started it. Your mistake.
PYWACKET
S) Then, when I state my views, WHICH YOU SOLICITED, you say I am proselytizing.


P) No Sara. I asked a hypothetical question. A series of them. If science had proved there is no god, what would you do? Pretty simple.


S) What exactly is it you are doing Py? If your presence here on EP is not proselytizing, then I don't know what is.


P) Sara, I had a valid reason for asking the hypothetical questions. I have explained this.


S) Every time I use terms like "our Creator" you claim I am doing something wrong or offending you.


P) You were proselytizing and insisting that I had proved nothing. It was a HYPOTHETICAL Sara.


S) You would rather I use the language of an atheist.



P) Lol. Noooo. I would rather you answer the questions, based upon the premise of the HYPOTHETICAL scenario.


S) Sorry, I am not an atheist.



P) Wow. News flash. :)



S) I know this fact offends you and for that I am sorry, but I'd rather offend you than our Creator.


P) Sara, you are in another world. Of course I knew why you were refusing to answer the questions based on the HYPOTHETICAL scenario.


You COULDN'T without (in your mind) offending God. You couldn't even PRETEND for a moment there was no God.


That was clear in the first statements you made.
PYWACKET
S) I've told you (and have previously written on EP) that I support a secular society.


P) Of course you do. As you crusade for stamping out sexual 'assault' on college campuses. Making a huge deal out of it. An 'epidemic' you said. Sure, when you add anything and everything under the sun that could even be slightly construed as sexual.

An unwanted kiss? Get fucking real. What kind of wimps are you people, anyway? The back of someone's hand brushing against a nipple through a shirt? Are you people out of your minds? Yes. You are.

S) Each of us has the right to believe or not believe as he or she wishes.


P) Well, when those beliefs translate into actions, laws, rules, regulations, attitudes, societal pressures etc that I DON'T LIKE, then we have a conflict, don't we? You better expect there is going to be some resistance.


S) And, each of us in a free society has the obligation to support that right among our fellow citizens.


P) Bullshit. See my previous comment.


S) You have every right to espouse your views here on EP and anywhere else you'd like.


P) Thank you.


S) And I assert my right to publicly disagree with those views (which was the purpose of this original story).


S) I'm good with that.


P) Engaging in public discourse does not make either one of us a troll,


S) This is true. But what you did on my thread was troll.


P) especially when that discourse was solicited.


P) You were totally unresponsive to the hypothetical. Sara, either way I got what I wanted. I couldn't lose. Thank you for participating.


S) However, stating "I believe in God" as you did and then posting a story challenging the faith of others clearly does.


P) Once again, if I wish to engage with Christians, I am going to go where the Christians are. Something wrong with me asking Christians how would they cope if they found out there was no god? Lol. Ohh. I'm sorry. I forgot. That's impossible, isn't it?
PYWACKET
And thanks. I am dying, but I will make an effort to be well. :/


Lol.
PYWACKET
Hey .... You don't suppose Christians ever go to atheist threads and engage atheists, do you?
PYWACKET
Wasn't paying attention. Hate the no edit on this site.

I have reversed our S and P midway. Sorry.
xxRoom101xx
my God! is this idiot still harassing you Sara.


the guy epitomises the very definition of the word TROLL. he gets his rocks off by antagonising others. in fact, i would go further and state that, judging by the evidence on his profile, his behavior towards you and his ridiculous views on pretty much everything, he is an attention seeking narcissist with extreme sociopathic tendencies.


i really admire your tenacity Sara but please...........Ignore, Delete and Block are the only viable strategies for dealing with twats like this guy.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
Hey Roomie! Welcome back to EP!! ;-)


Actually, Py had taken some time away from me and just recently re-engaged, so it's not "still", it's "again". Honestly, I found it a bit amusing that he, of all people, called me a troll. He literally joined a group called "I BELIEVE IN GOD" and then posted a story under the title "I BELIEVE IN GOD". His story challenged the beliefs of all legitimate members of the group "I BELIEVE IN GOD" and yet I am the troll. I love it.
PYWACKET
Mmm. Wow. Misogynic much? Twat? Maybe you just didn't know it is a slang term for female sex organ.
PYWACKET
No Sara. It was a 'what if' question for Christians. You have some rather striking mental blocks Sara.

I didn't say I believe in God. That's the heading of the GROUP.

Christians raise topics in "I am an Atheist". They whine. They bitch. They complain.

And yeah, their are atheists stupid enough to whine and bitch and complain about a Christian posting under "I am an atheist".

I asked a legitimate question Sara. I wasn't challenging your belief in GOD. I was attempting to get you brain dead Christians to consider how STUPID and IDIOTIC it is to think that atheists have no morals. That atheists have no purpose. That atheists don't value life.

AND EVERY OTHER RETARDED THING YOU PEOPLE BELIEVE about atheism.

It was an attempt to educate YOURSELVES to the reality that if GOD was stripped from your lives that you would adapt. You would discover new meaning. New purpose. You'd find you still have MORALS. yeah. Shocking.

And you would still find joy and happiness and AWE.

But you didn't want people to even CONSIDER this possibility.

Yes. You are a smart girl Sara. Just not as smart as me. Sorry about that.
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
Wait, Py, seriously? Your excuse is "Well they started it!" Hahahaha, can you hear me saying that with a whine in my voice? Dude, that stopped being a valid excuse for bad behavior when you were five years old.


Okay, I'll try to go slow so you can understand....
EP is organized around experience groups. EVERY experience group on EP begins with the first person pronoun, "I". That is because EP is intended to allow people to connect through common experiences and beliefs. If you went through my experience groups, you would see things like "I love the ocean" and "I love sailing" and "I am a black belt" and "I am a girl that likes girls" and, yes, "I believe in God". If you went through my experience groups and read nothing else about me, you would pretty much get a good picture of who I am. That is how EP is setup and meant to work.


But those Christians that join groups called "I am an atheist" are just as much trolls as you are. You (and they) are intentionally sticking your noses into groups of people for the purpose of stirring up trouble. You are the dictionary definition of a troll. But that's fine. I've never brought this up because it does not matter to me one bit. But you, of all people, calling me a troll is just plain funny.


And again, Py, you have no idea what I believe because you have never asked. I have never said atheists are not or could not be moral people. One of my best friends in the world is a member here, and an atheist, and one of the most moral people I know. Morality and faith are not directly related; I wish there was a greater correlation, but sadly it seems not.
xxRoom101xx
for your edification Mr Pywackadoodle (and boy, do you need it........edification i mean):


"The word twat is vulgar slang for the human vulva, but is more widely used as a derogatory epithet, especially in British English, referring to a person considered obnoxious or stupid."
xxRoom101xx
what i find most amusing in all this latest nonsense is his feeble attempt to twist everything around and cast himself as the victim. not just in his ridiculous troll accusation but in all of it.


Sara, do you think that the guy realises that we can all access and read what he has publicly said on his profile, to you, to others? maybe someone should tip him off.............................a nearby cliff!
PYWACKET
Victim? You are too funny. Please indicate where I even hinted at portraying myself as a victim.

Incredible as it seems, you STILL can't figure out who I am and why I do this.

Incredible because I make no attempt to hide it. I have said many times what my agenda is.

Of course, you KNOW why. But by making these retarded accusations you think you can discredit me and people will disregard anything I say.

I'm sure there are people who WILL disregard it.

Others will not. That's good enough for me. :)
PYWACKET
Wow. Really? I had no idea. Lol. You never fail to entertain. Please. Don't let me stop you.

Just for YOUR edification, I'm willing to bet that SOME readers have noted that you have NEVER ... not one single time .... addressed any of the actual issues. You just hurl your little epitaphs and run away.

I know I would have far more respect for you if you had the balls to debate any of the issues I have raised.

I suppose you would first have to learn something about them. Lol.
PYWACKET
Sara. You are killing me. YOU are the one whining about me bringing up your sex play with the bf.

I simply noted that I brought it up as a return favor. YOU were doing all you could to neuter me and my message by showing readers that I really believed in God, that I was posting out of anger at God, and therefor anything I said could be written off as the postings of a disgruntled Christian.

It failed because you had misunderstood the passages you read in that particular story.

But because you had attempted to discredit me rather than debate my points on their own merits, I felt you needed a little turnabout. You were a bad little girl and deserved to be punished.

So I did. I made you look like an idiot for making a big deal of your 'attempted rape'.

And you are STILL mad about it. Lol. Well, too bad. As I said, YOU started it. You should have debated me like an adult, honest, strait forward, sincere ... instead of resorting to the dishonest, disingenuous crap you were throwing out.

I'm really sorry I embarrassed you, especially in front of your friends, but YOU started it.

Maybe next time you will be less cocky and more cautious when you want to play with the big boys.

I know it's hard for you to accept but there ARE people in this world who are your intellectual superiors.

I'm one of them.

And there are people in this world who are more knowledgeable about your religion than you are.

I'm one of them.

There are people in this world who are more knowledgeable about human behavioral issues than you are.

I'm one of them.

You need to change your 'evil' ways.

Stop making stupid claims you can't back up with facts.

Stop trying to discredit your opponent and debate on the merits. If you can't, then disengage and research the issue(s). Come back when you are certain of your facts and can support them.

"I said so" is not going to work against a knowledgeable opponent. They will tear you to pieces.

Ok?

Be good. I wish you well on your journey.

:)
PYWACKET
Sara. Dear. You are a Christian. Well. A lot of other Christians would say you are not because you are lesbian. But you reject the parts of Christianity that conflict with your narcissistic world view and maintain in your mind that you are Christian.

You are also a feminist and much of that overlaps with your religious beliefs. Some does not. Again, there are Christians that would happily burn you at the stake for being a homosexual. If they could get away with it.

To many Christians you are property. You should have no rights.

At least I'm on your side in that respect. You are human and deserve to enjoy the same rights anyone has.

Including living as a homosexual. I have no problem at all with that and I commend you for your public stance on this.

Good thing you aren't in the Bible Belt though. A bit tougher for those people.

Anyway, I wish you well. Again.
PYWACKET
And by the way, thank you for informing me about my home page being public. I had no idea it was. Being illiterate I really didn't know what all that stupid stuff in privacy settings was all about so I just randomly checked stuff.

Lol. Thank you again for your amusing posts.

Feel free to copy and post anything you want from my home page stuff.

Omg. I just had a TERRIFYING thought!!!

Do you think it's possible Sara could REVEAL to everyone things I wrote to her in PMs? GASP!!

Lol. I really love you guys. How boring EP would be without you.
PYWACKET
Just one more example of your inability to challenge on an issue so you throw more rocks.

You Christians are really such cowards.

"Block him!!"

"You really shouldn't be talking to him Sara!!"

"You really should block him!!"

Lol. I'm sure Sara can handle her own affairs.

Don't you people ever get sick of being frightened little rabbits?
PYWACKET
What ya think guys? Should I block Sara? She really frightens me with her super dangerous views.

She thinks an unwanted kiss is a SEXUAL ASSAULT!!!! OMGOMG!!!

That POOR victim. How will he/she ever recover from this VIOLENT attack??

ITS A FREAKIN EPIDEMIC!!

RAPISTS ARE EVERYWHERE!!!

HELPLESS VICTIMS ARE BEING VIOLATED!!!

THESE ARE SICK, PERVERTED MONSTERS AND WE NEED TO RID THIS PLANET OF THESE SICKOS!!!

No people. I'm not saying that rape is ok.

But before I go any further I will state that the new definitions of rape are absurd.

If someone touches a dick and it was not wanted, it is not a big deal.

If someone touches a pussy and it was not wanted, it is not a big deal.

Our society needs to realize that this kind of stuff is normal and natural.

It isn't a fucking crime. Nobody should be arrested and convicted of sexual assault for this kind of shit.

Stop being such wimps. You didn't like it? You didn't want it?

Oh well. That's life. Get over it.

Someone grabs you and drags you into the bushes and puts a knife to your throat or making out with you in a frat house bedroom and tries to force you to have sex ... while you still have your clothes on ... these ARE big deals.

If you are naked in bed with someone and they ignore your 'no' and screw you, too bad. Maybe next time you won't be naked in bed with someone unless you are willing to have sex.

And if you ARE having sex and don't feel right about it anymore and want him/her to stop, and they don't, too fucking bad.

Live with the consequences of your actions.

And get over it.
PYWACKET
Of course, if the sex is actually hurting you physically and you inform your partner and he/she won't stop, that is a different story. That's a crime.

Even so, you should be able to get over this.