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We bash on Muslims who choose to cover their bodies for their religion. So why dont we bash the Amish for doing the same?

So why do we allow Amish women to dress modestly and not Muslim women?
I've seen Muslim women discriminated for wearing their long weird dresses, why though? Dont the Amish do the same?
Miram · 31-35, F
From my experience, usually when people use the word bash, they also mean criticism.

I criticise the burqa because it poses security risks. As someone who grew up in a war against Islamists, I am very familiar with stories of terrorist escaping through the borders wearing that, or doing suicidal bombings wearing that too. They must be identified so they can be stopped.

Even in Muslim countries, the burqa is being/will be banned. It is not a clothing that is recognised as Islamic by all of the sects/schools. And historically speaking, Mohammed didn't mean for it to be a permanent rule.
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@Darkcosmos: interesting point of view. thank you
Serenitree · F
Their clothing is often very beautiful. Yards and years of beautifully embroidered silk. That's not weird to me. It's lovely
SW-User
Amish women are always free to leave the community- and aren't given severe beatings. I suppose this major difference is enough to justify criticism of Islam.
Miram · 31-35, F
@golemn9: Nonsense, christianity and the Bible both have been changed over the years.

https://lifehopeandtruth.com/change/the-church/was-christianity-designed-to-evolve/

Of course we need to promote a culture of tolerance but there is no way to do so if religion is taken as an untouchable area of absolute knowledge. If anything,it is contradictory to that same point.
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@Darkcosmos: Religion is used as a front for norms and values.
Ex: Christians used to have many wives, and it was not wrong.
But as soon as the norms and values changed, Christianity changed.
Okay, I agree that Christianity has changed. But in truth, what really changed were the norms and values of the society.
Miram · 31-35, F
It's a source of norms and values too. To dismiss the wrong norms you have to be critical of it i.e criticism.

I can understand apologists' fears of people not being able differentiate between violent teachings and violent followers(generalisations). But the solution is not in silencing constructive criticism. But in criticising both religion, and those who discriminate against its followers
Sicarium · 46-50, M
1) How have you seen Muslim women discriminated against for their dress?

2) The Amish aren't covering their faces.
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@golemn9: If you're going to make a claim, yeah, you back it up. You chose that as your example, not me.
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@Sicarium: that isnt the point. im talking comparisons. amish and muslims. I could have used examples from the news. it doesnt matter because thats not the point
Sicarium · 46-50, M
@golemn9: Of course it matters. If it didn't, you wouldn't have included it.
SW-User
Because the population of the Amish people can't be compared to that of the Muslims.
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@QueenOfQuirk: your argument is based on the fact that you value Muslims less than non-muslims. It doesnt matter who commits an unethical act, if they are many or one. All must be held to justice. Or not.
SW-User
When did I speak about value 🤦🏻‍♂️
My arguments are based on existing statistics, not hypothetical ideas
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@QueenOfQuirk: I have yet to hear you mention any valid statistics. Matter of fact, you are again missing the point. Answer my question. Why should we bash Muslims and not the Amish for the same crime?
1GHOST · M
Amish done bombings are hard to come by .
Goralski · 51-55, M
D difference is the Amish don't go around telling people to do it or for that matter killing their daughter who doesn't
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@Goralski: They did at one point though in history didnt they?
Regardless, i have not seen a muslim in the west threatening to kill people's daughters
Goralski · 51-55, M
@golemn9: look up honor killing. ...they kill their own daughters
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
I don't bash Muslims or the Amish. But I would bash or be critical of those who do.

I honestly think people who criticize people's faiths are in the minority. Most people live and let live.
SW-User
My guess is that the Amish are to themselves. We never hear much about them nor do they receive much media attention as Muslims do.
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@lilchickennugget23: So because Muslims chose to integrate into our society they are open for bashing? That might have something to do with it i guess.
SW-User
'Long weird dresses' lolol
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@HakunaYoTatas: dont know the real name for them lol
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@theoneyouwerewarnedabout: if it's not our culture of course its not normal
SimplyTracie · 26-30, F
@golemn9: That is true. What's normal anyway.
I've heard more bashing around the Muslim hijab or burka than their dresses as such. I've seen Amish and Mennonite women in bonnets. When I was a little girl some traditional Catholic women still wore veils.
golemn9 · 26-30, M
@bijouxbroussard: So it's the face that cant be covered? why bash that and not the weird dress? what's the difference really?
@golemn9: That might be the concern, not being able to see their faces. I don't bash anyone, so I can't really speak for those who do.
Mrsbetweenfatandfit · 26-30, F
I can honestly say I have heard of and seen people bash Muslims but not once for the choice of clothing, I did not know people cared about that

 
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