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Rap, Rock'n roll - Music?

I hope it's OK to start my post by quoting others from a different thread.

@Jimmy2016 [quote]Rap isn't music [/quote]@bijouxbroussard [quote]Old people originally said that about rock and roll, too.[/quote]

They (we!) were right about a lot of it and still are 😀. Some of it doesn't seem so bad in hindsight because now there's a lot of stuff that's so much worse. Depends a bit on how you define Rock & Roll, or even just 'music'.

Although it could be music that you like, it's very often spoiled by the sound board guy or engineers who think you need to have the bass & percussion instruments louder than all else; and that what used to be called a singer's accompaniment should be the main event, so the instrumentals get super-amped and the vocalist is partly drowned out with lyrics mostly lost.

Music can have melody, harmony and disharmony, simplicity or complexity, beat; variations in rhythm & volume. It can be calming, exciting or inspiring. It can have a message too. I suppose 'rap' is meant to have a message but I can seldom make it out. If it has none of those other attributes I think calling it music is preposterous.
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This is like being a steak snob:/