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San Francisco, The Capitol Of The Land Of Fruits And Nuts, Launches Taxpayer Funded Public Defender Office Dedicated To Illegal Immigrants

You can’t make this stuff up.

To our complete ‘shock’, the liberal bastion of California’s northern shores has just announced that it will create a brand new tax-payer funded branch of the Public Defender’s office to specifically defend illegal immigrants (key word being illegal), including gang members, in deportation cases. Adding insult to injury, taxpayers will have to pony up an additional $200,000 each year to cover the cost of 3 public defenders and a paralegal, all of whom will be dedicated to making sure that federal laws are ignored.
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beckyromero · 36-40, F
What part of "innocent unless proven guilty" don't you understand?

Or do you prefer the Russian way of criminal "justice"?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero You're kidding, right?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@sunsporter1649

Well, at least the Russians go through the motions of sham trials.

Guess you want to skip that and go right to the chair.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero Oh? Since when does American Federal Law apply to the folks of foreign countries? Is that what you mean by open borders, America to rule the world?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@sunsporter1649

Since 1868. The 14th Amendment. Pesky little thing for you Trumpets, isn't it?

[quote]Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; [b]nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.[/b][/quote]

The 5th Amendment in 1791 already took care of non-slaves.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@beckyromero LOL, so illegal aliens are citizens of the United States?
Elessar · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 You realize it says "person" instead of "citizen" in the bold part on purpose, right?
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@Elessar LOL, so you gonna extend American Civil Rights to chicom citizens?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 The constitution is the highest law of the land. That phrase should give you a hint regarding the jurisdiction involved.

It's pretty pathetic how little you know about the constitution - and everything else you claim to hold dear, yet remain thoroughly ignorant of.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@QuixoticSoul Like Article 1, Section 4?
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Elessar · 26-30, M
@sunsporter1649 Re-read carefully:
[i]nor shall any State deprive [b]any person[/b] of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to [b]any person within its jurisdiction[/b] the equal protection of the laws.
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Chinese citizens living in China are not under the U.S. jurisdiction. Immigrants within U.S. territory are within the U.S. jurisdiction.

Once you mastered a concept like this, you can successfully complete grade three ✌️
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Elessar [quote]Once you mastered a concept like this[/quote]
He won't.
Sharon · F
@sunsporter1649 How can we know a person is an illegal alien before trying the evidence against them?
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@Sharon Because being in the country illegally is not a crime, no matter how much sporty wants it to be - there is no presumption of innocence, right to due process, etc. It’s up to the immigrant to prove they’re in the country legally, not the other way around. But access to a lawyer will make sure everyone is following the rules, and help resolve any procedural juju.
@QuixoticSoul Which is why I maintain even illegal immigrants should have access to legal representation. That's the way the system is supposed to work.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire LOL, everybody gets in, terrorists, child molesters, human trafficker's, drug smugglers, everybody!!!
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@sunsporter1649 You’re such a sad joke, sporty.
@sunsporter1649 Nobody pulled your string.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@LordShadowfire Still no viable plan, eh? Amusing
Elessar · 26-30, M
@Sharon, @QuixoticSoul, @LordShadowfire

What have you done?? You've summoned him back on a thread that was dead since Feb 4 😐😐
@Elessar Sorry... *sniff*