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What are your thoughts on Black Lives Matter?

Does Black Lives Matter benefit the black community and educate other communities? Or do you think they look the other way to serious issues such as the ever growing problem that is black on black crime?

Discuss, be civil
Ynotisay · M Best Comment
If you take a step back and look at the movement in its entirety I'd say it's highly unproductive. The motivations (if not the name) of BLM initially made a strong point. But what was blatantly clear from the start, outside of the lack of leadership, is that they were playing a blame game. Not saying some of it wasn't justified. But it sure as hell doesn't serve the bigger goal.

It's akin to reparations. If I was a black man I'd be pissed if someone was trying to buy me off for a few bucks over something I had nothing to do with. It's an insult. "Here's a few bucks because we don't think you can make it on your own because, you know, you're black." Screw that.

As I see it, what BLM did was to drive another wedge in to race relations. You CAN'T expect inclusion while purposefully excluding or demonizing. That's true in anything. But it's a very American way of dealing with big issues. We don't treat the cause in this country. We put band aids on the symptoms after the fact. And way too often it's way too late.

What BLM should have been doing is demanding that city and rural governments work to subsidize supermarkets and banks coming to to black areas. Expand work programs where they're needed. Push the message that there are FAR more African Americans working their asses off and doing it the right way than there are gutless bangers on the street.

The reality is the 'good kids' in the inner cities get bullied for trying to get an education. The reality is that hip hop freaks with chains are the heroes. That "baby daddy" has become and accepted phrase. It's a vicious cycle that can ONLY be changed from the inside out.

My take? Most all of "white America" would want to see that happen. I don't think the dudes climbing off the tractor care as much about race as they do culture. What those cats don't understand is nuance. "Fuck the man" is a direct attack on them. And they'll very quickly lump everyone in to the same box. All the while, those of us who have lived in black neighborhoods understand how the few dictate life for the many. It's not fair. It should piss people off. But apathy or blaming is easier.

As an example. The only way the prison population of African Americans decreases is if African Americans stop committing crimes. The law is the law for everyone. It's not that complicated. So until the "black community leaders" start to hold up a mirror to, particularly, urban black society, and turn criminals in to pariahs, then it'll be a never-ending conveyor belt. I don't know anyone who wants that to be the case.

I just remember when the criminal Bill Cosby, who at the time was very popular with white and black audiences, came out and said black kids need to start using proper language and "pull their pants up." He was vilified. He sold out his race. Really? Is that what he did?

I think it's naive to think that all black leaders truly want what's best for 'their people.' I think there's plenty who profit from the anger and disenfranchisement. Kind of pisses me off when I consider how many have fallen through the cracks with nowhere to turn.

So I applaud BLM for creating a voice. But I do not agree in how that voice is being used.
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@Ynotisay that has probably been the best explanation about BLM I have heard in years. I applaud you
Ynotisay · M
@TakingBackMidgard That's kind of you to say.

AnonymousJSS · 22-25, F
I think they focus too much on police brutality against African-Americans, and they don’t try to fix issues within their own community (black on black crime as you said).
I like the intention of the movement, but they also shouldn’t generalize themselves by claiming they’re [b]ALL[/b] victims, nor should they ignore the issues within their own community
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@AnonymousJSS Of course they focus on police brutality - that is the whole point of the group. And it’s ok to be single-issue oriented, trying to do everything leads to paralysis - especially when the issues are relatively unrelated.

There are groups trying to alleviate poverty and crime in black communities, BLM is just not one of them.
curiosi · 61-69, F
I feel it is just about more division. We are going to be destroyed because of division and the powers that be fan the flames. If they were really concerned they would find a way to fix Chicago.
Asm0deus · F
I don’t think people that are gonna give you answers will be able to relate to POC and what we face on a daily.
Asm0deus · F
@TakingBackMidgard [center]Oh yeah I’ve seen and heard that. The thing is yes some do but when one gets victimized they want to include the whole race and they come together.

I mean they have the right to feel and believe what they want, it’s their right. Unfortunately, I think this is something that’ll be a forever thing cause times have not changed and it seems it has gotten worse.[/center]
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@Asm0deus This isn’t a dig or an attack but do you think times have gotten worse than the Jim Crow days? The riots from the 60s? And or the slavery days?

I try to keep up on what’s going on in the world especially in the nation.

Most of the time the people I find who make this same claim are from a college or city and I’m trying to see if those places have an issue with racism as a whole.

My home town of South Bend Indiana does fairly well minus some of the highest crime in the nation.

However in 2011 a couple of high ranking city officials were caught making extreme racist remarks on a recorded phone line in the police department.

When the Communications Director (white female) and Chief (black male)(SBs first ever black chief) over heard this the members making the comments sued saying the line was wire tapped.

This case is still in the works as they’re (the racist remark makers) doing their best to make sure the public doesn’t hear this.

In the mean time the Mayor (also 2020 presidential runner, Pete Buttigieg fired the Communications Director and Chief.

So I whole heartedly stand by standing against levels of corruption such as this and can see it clearly.

However the sad part is people who are against racism and oppression will blow extreme cases like this because they know Pete is trying to become the Democratic nominee and will let racism slide if he (a Gay White Male) can possibly become president even though he is guilty of spending millions of tax payer dollars covering up racism

Do you think one area is guilty or that it exists all around?
Asm0deus · F
I feel sometimes that we’re going back to the times of the riots back in the 60’s. Unlike then we’re able to record and show others just how low someone can be.

Like the case of the white woman in New York that was claiming that a little black child touched her ass but it was his backpack. They showed the surveillance tapes. The kid was innocent the whole time and apologized on tv and to the kid on camera.

I’m from Texas and there is areas that if you’re not white you’re not welcomed and they’ll harm you so it’s best that you turn around.

I’m older now but I’ll never forget about hearing the James Byrd Jr. case. I was a kid back in that time of 1998 but I remember the news always on and hearing what happened to that man. It was a lynching by dragging. The three men took Byrd to a remote county road out of town, beat him severely, spray-painted his face, urinated and defecated on him, and chained him by his ankles to their pickup truck before dragging him for about 3 miles. They dragged him and his arm and head got decapitated when they hit a bump in the road and they found his body and remains by a cemetery.

Cops, I don’t get into that cause growing up as a kid I’ve never liked them. In my whole life I’ve only liked about two. Some I feel they put on a mask to make it seem like they’re you’re “friend” and not your enemy when they show videos of them visiting little black and Hispanic kids to kind of soften some blow and make it seem they’re not bad as a whole.

Their is evil, ugliness and crookedness everywhere. In every shape and form.

@TakingBackMidgard
I dont think about it.. I think if they felt they were treated fairly then they wouldnt feel the need to protest

The fact is that there are some racist pigs out there
Ordinarily, I would say that ALL lives matter however with Trump fostering and embracing this current cult of hatred black folks are going to be targeted more than ever. This same cult will also be targeted toward myself for being gay.
@TakingBackMidgard That would take a lot of time I don't have. There are a lot of folks here who have the energy and expertise (I honestly) lack. Your own observations and enlightenment about current events etc. are more important than the opinions of others. Thanks for a great post anyway.
TakingBackMidgard · 26-30, M
@Grateful4you My pleasure, friend and worry not I understand how it goes we are all busy albeit work, school, day to day life.
@TakingBackMidgard Please DO keep in touch! 😀
raysam363 · 31-35, F
I think the general group focuses too much on the big name cases while many of the little names get left in the dust. They aren't the first to do this of course, but if they changed this they would arguably gain many more supporters.
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QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
All manners of serious crime is falling, not growing.
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