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Is the "Billy Graham Rule" sexist or just old fashioned?

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It's Sexist
It's Old Fashioned
It's wise to protect yourself in this manner
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Story:

Robert Foster, the Republican state lawmaker running for governor of Mississippi, turned down a journalist’s request to shadow him on the campaign trail because he said he refuses to be alone with a woman other than his wife. (Rogelio V. Solis/AP)


Source:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham_rule

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/the-billy-graham-rule-doesnt-honor-your-wife-it-demeans-her--and-all-women/2019/07/11/c1ac14e6-a380-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html?utm_term=.d4eafd36696a

My input:

Is Robert wrong for making this request?
More and more men nowadays are feeling uncomfortable being alone with women especially in professional settings. Are these feelings justified or are they merely overreactions?
I think it's a disturbing and repressively pathetic self-imposed social rule.

One. My late wife would have HATED getting dragged around to various functions.

Two. If I can't be professional with women-- then I don't deserve a profession or a political office.

Three. Sure. I'll be honest. I generally keep the door to my office open when speaking with female students and colleagues. I guess that's "protecting myself".

But I've also gotten baked at the bar with female colleagues and have had deeply personal conversations with female students and colleagues behind closed doors. So that's the fourth point-- if you can't discern when discretion is useful versus a burden, then you're sort of fucked up.

Scenario #1. Discussing politics with a female journalist in her hotel room while you fold the panties in her suitcase-- problem.

Scenario #2. Discussing politics with a female journalist in the lobby of said hotel-- sounds reasonable.
MethDozer · M
@CopperCicada I don't disagree with anything there.
Ynotisay · M
@CopperCicada Doesn't take much to get certain things right.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@CopperCicada The female reporter was requesting to drive along with the candidate in his pick-up truck where it would only be the two of them as he criss-crosses the state in what he described as 16-hour days.

I think the candidate, who describes himself as an underdog, was hoping for some free public attention. But, the concern he is claiming is not without merit. It seems there is an element of risk for any two people (or any gender or persuasion) to necessarily be alone if they don't know each other, regardless of professional credentials. Sadly, that's just what social interaction has become.
It's neither old fashioned or sexist by default, but it could be both or either. It's a personal comfort thing. Think of it this way, there are women only clubs, men only clubs, gay only clubs, lesbian only clubs, kids only clubs, elderly only organizations, etc... There are places you can only go if you are a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, sometimes on proper rank within any of these. Some places you can only go in certain positions or with X amount of income either high or low. All sorts of stuff out there hinged on isolation from other people.

The only way this would be sexist is if he were to not want to be alone with a woman because he distrusts women, or thinks they are lesser than men, or something along those lines.

Personal space is personal space, people have safe spaces in colleges.

While I don't understand the mentality, doesn't necessarily make it sexist or old fashioned, it's just how they roll.
SW-User
You could probably add a third option, which is self preservation. If he’s never alone with a woman other than his wife, he significantly lowers his risk of ending up in a [i]he-said-she-said[/i] situation as a result. If he’s deathly afraid of being accused of something he didn’t do, that might factor into his thinking.
TheunderdogofNY · 36-40, M
@SW-User adding a third option
Ynotisay · M
The only men who are feeling uncomfortable being alone with a woman are the men who don't have their acts together. His position is right in line with Muslim women having to wear burkas. It's bullshit, weak and really sexist. Who in their right mind would vote for a "man" like that? Unbelievable.
SWMae · 26-30, F
I'm not familiar with this particular backstory but regarding the "Billy Graham Rule", it's implying that women shouldn’t trust their husbands because men are unable to control their urges. Thank goodness for the MeToo movement.
Pherick · 41-45, M
"more and more men"??? In what context in what setting?

This is the first I have ever heard any man whine about this. What a baby.
daisymay · 51-55, T
@Pherick Mike "No Homo Bro" Pence also ascribes to this idiocy.
Pherick · 41-45, M
@daisymay Why doesn't that surprise me ...
SW-User
In the metoo era, it’s probably wise. It might’ve seemed old fashioned before but now it’s just a good idea.
daisymay · 51-55, T
@SW-User Wouldn't it be easier to just not sexually harass/assault the journalist?
SW-User
It’s honestly not too different to when doctors make sure there’s a third person in the room. They do it to protect themselves, and there’s nothing wrong with wanting a third person in the room if either party isn’t 100% comfortable. @SW-User
redredred · M
I assume people have a right of freedom of association. Since we are all free to decide who we spend time with, I dont see a problem here.
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
It's old fashioned, but it's old fashioned because it's sexist.
They are just mad because they wont be able to falsely accuse him of something he didnt do. it is old fashioned, but these days, it pays to be careful when you are running for public office. bill clinton maybe should have thought about that rule. hahahaha
I would say it is old fashioned BUY if i were running for office i wouldnt be alone with a jounal8st. I would have one 9f my people there to witness what was said and done.
Ynotisay · M
@approachingmyexpirationdate They don't do sit-downs with journalists alone.
curiosi · 61-69, F
Mike pence said the same thing and was ripped apart for it. Since almost everyone and their brother in law is accused of inappropriate behavior often without any proof. Pence is bullet proof. It's wise move.
MethDozer · M
It"s merely old fashioned and in many ways...... A very smart move.
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Pherick · 41-45, M
@leowander So all women are out to setup men? Get real.
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daisymay · 51-55, T
@leowander [quote]should be wary of the press[/quote]

But, it's only the female journalists that got refused. Huh.

[quote]It keeps press people from making malicious accusations.[/quote]

You stated this, then accuse people of overreacting when asked to show some examples.
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