Change my mind: Capitalism is an inherent class struggle between those who do the work and those who own/run the means of production

Seriously, if you have a persuasive enough argument I will change my mind.

It's a complex issue... Overall I think the whole idea of what success is, and what it means to be a "wealthy" person/country is extremely flawed. The GDP does not measure health and satisfaction of a population, nor their environment. If the amount of money a person has is the *only* way to gauge "success," we have got it wrong.

Capitalism doesn't exist without consumerism, and with consumerism we trade a lot of our freedoms for minor comforts while destroying our souls, our sense of connection, and the environment. My convenience to purchase cheap electronics made from plastic (oil) directly influences the quality of life of people who have less money than I do. Without having this awareness, in living with such consensual blindness, we are not truly living. We are not truly living. Capitalism is absolutely class struggle, as well as human struggle--are we going to do the "right" thing? Apparently we are all okay with letting others suffer for our minor comforts.

"What's the alternative?"
Not to completely remove the systems in place, but to carefully and meticulously rework our global infrastructure so that there is less divide between classes, less focus on material wealth, and more focus on what really matters: connection, community, striving for a better world, for all.

But are we ready to give up our minor conveniences?

CountScrofula · 41-45, M

@lovelywarpedlemon Yeah. You're absolutely right and the kinds of motivations that drive you and choices you make (that I'm aware of from your posts here) are awesome and good ones.

I think we broadly agree even if we emphasize different things.

Jamesbo · 70-79, M

[@lovelywarpedlemon Yes plastic is a byproduct of oil so is oil bad? If you say it is then what would hospitals us for its life saving devices? When in one look around and you will see how much plastic is used. Now we have electric vehicles and making some progress with them. But would in the past without gasoline what kind of rapid lifesaving means would you get taken to the hospital. Automobile safety and efficiency relies on, yes plastic. May I ask do you own a car? Do you have a furnace in your home or an air conditioner? everything is a trade off. Now Socialism is where communism starts, then it turns ingto the end justifies the means. Do you know what that means? That means that if you are one that gets in way of what the ruling party thinks you can be arrested thrown in jail or murdered and that is why communism has murdered more people than any other form of government in history. Oh and don't forget Venezuela, the population is starving in a grand scale since they initiated there Marxist communist government. I don't happen to have the time but there is so much more. I can see out colleges are doing a very poor job of educating our youth and at a very high cost.