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Why not make it that only Veterans can run for any office?

There are a number of newly elected Veterans coming into congress. There are enough women in the forces now to represent their views. Why not simply make it a rule that only Vets can nominate, proving that you have already given your country real service seems a damned good way to improve the breed to me.
(I can't claim this as my idea. Robert Heinlein proposed "Federal Service"as a prerequisite for politics in "Starship Troopers")
[b]For that you would have to change the constitution ( not easy ) and it wouldn´t be fair to those who cannot serve in the army.

How about electing a President that actually respects those who have served, unlike the orange clown you have currently in office ?[/b]
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Underconstruction Absolutely. And who better to respect that service than a comrade in arms.?
@whowasthatmaskedman You don´t have to be a vet to appreciate their service.
so the guy that shot up that nightclub in 1000 oaks.
he'd be able to run
[b]Nor would Ron Helus the deputy killed that night.[/b]

and yr president would not be able to be president,

I served, as [i]did my entire family[/i] for generations leading back to the colonial time.

the military is as full of idoits and assholes as the rest of our world

this is a terrible idea.

id rather we just chose at random, from law abiding people
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@plaguewatcher I dont remember case where a person qualified for anything By "becoming white" although some do convert religions. And I wouldnt advocate revoving any current member (no matter how tempting) Just require all nominees to show an honourable discharge. Call it a character reference to their willingness to serve.
@whowasthatmaskedman that shooter had an honorable discharge
so hows that proof?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@plaguewatcher I also believe that shooter had issues he tried to get help for but couldnt. (I stand to be corrected on that) If that is so. Maybe having a congressman who had some empathy might have turned the whole thing.
St0ut · 51-55, M
Because that would be unamerican and unconstitutional
TheProphet · M
Being a veteran doesn't make you a good leader.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@TheProphet Not always. But it eliminates some self service cowards. I am just looking to improve the odds
TheProphet · M
@whowasthatmaskedman I'm for good candidates regardless of service.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@TheProphet And I have no doubt your way will continue. I am simply suggesting a way to make other candidates better.
There are many good people who were not Veterans. Though my father was in WW2 and received many medals.
luv2fly352 · 70-79, M
@JustLikeGreta I'm a disabled veteran of two military conflicts and i agree.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@JustLikeGreta I contend that you need the best people in those jobs. Those who want the job will be prepared to serve. Of course this is not a fix all. But it has to improve the average. I am sure your Father would have taken the role with dignity and done better than many you have now.
@whowasthatmaskedman My Dad hated the military and hated politics even more. whereby my hubby never served and loved politics. and World History, etc. And was a good man inspite of never serving.
How about forcing them to offer up a mix of people from different backgrounds so that you have a more equal mix of rich and poor people... that should go a good way to making the system fairer to everyone as opposed to just those that can pay for affiliation.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@HootyTheNightOwl That is an option. But there is no guarantee the scum would not rise to the surface with those groups as it has in the current system. I am looking for a way to improve the average, possibly by removing a moral deficit or two.
@whowasthatmaskedman Whenever you have a group of people, you'll never prevent the possibility of cliques forming simply because of the fact that we know that there's greater safety in numbers - even in politics there's a good chance that people are voting for what everyone else wants rather than choosing the policy that they feel is in the best interests of the country as a whole.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@HootyTheNightOwl I completely agree. But there is something in Military training about duty to your nation and community. Hopeful, self interest and safety can be looked past.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
....Like Oliver North ?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Picklebobble2 Or Kennedy?and Eisenhower
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It's a really bad idea. Military governments don't have a great rep.

Even if it was a democracy, you would only be picking people from one profession. Military spending would be unlikely to ever go down.
I love Heinlein, but his politics were always a bit wacky, and I don't think this one was a good idea.
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
Lol service guarantees citizenship! 😂

No thanks, Heinlein’s foray into fascism is not my style.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
I'm not sure that being a vet qualifies anyone for anything beyond being a vet.
St0ut · 51-55, M
You could however suggest that for your own country just saying
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@St0ut Yes. I could.. and would. We have more than our fair share of weaseley lawyers and accountants and PR people in Parliament as well. What we dont have is a proud tradition of military service in the community. Something to be admired in America, then largely wasted.
hertoy · 70-79, M
That's not a bad idea...
TexChik · F
I think going back to tax payers only would resolve the issue . Thst would wipe out the liberal minions , leaving only the Uber rich
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@TexChik Lmao, the “progressive activist” sector of the electorate is the one that’s most likely to have six figure incomes 😂
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@TexChik I think only transgender asylum seekers should be allowed to run.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 At least they would be interested enough to turn up to vote.
I guess you haven't read our const. -
@whowasthatmaskedman Sorry I was getting my stress headache -
You do know that you just can't amend the constitution like you change underwear -right ? The ERA as been on the back burners for years and I dont believe it is an change to the const. So your suggestion is ok but just a suggestion.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@MarmeeMarch And thats all it ever will be.. I get that. But you have to start somewhere. Looking past Trump as am issue, America cant go on like this forever.
@whowasthatmaskedman well there could be changes , never know
JonathanC · 61-69, M
Fortunately for the country, this will never happen.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
you have that option every election
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@MarineBob I dont think an "option" is good enough. I think you need every seat in congress, the senate and the White house. (Lets throw in the Governors Mansions et all) filled with someone who is prepared to put their @$$ on the line for the people.
That would severely limit its representation of the people whom it governed, especially other ideologies and women’s rights, even more than it already does. And, [b]no[/b], a majority of women in the military are [b]conservative[/b] and don’t represent all of our interests. I would never support that.

 
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