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Is it time for the President Trump haters to move on and unity and support the United States?

I thought that’s what mature adult Americans are supposed to do and have always done myself when my preferred candidate did not win?
Sorry. Patriotism and loyalty not only allow but demand space for political dissent. Reasoned political dissent is the most patriotic thing one can do. This is reflected in the writings of our founding fathers. It's reflected in the political dialog surrounding our greatest leaders. People think Obama and Trump got it bad-- Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln... they were drawn and quartered in the political debate of the day. And it's also reflected in the interpretation of the 1st amendment by our greatest jurists like Holmes, Brandeis and Black. Personally, I can't think of an element of our society as uniquely American as active and open political dissent. I believe it was Justice Hugo Black that said there is risk in political and social dissent destabilizing the union, but there is more threat in attenuating free speech preventing our democracy from functioning. And that in the absence of an immediate threat we have to err on the side of free speech and thus dissent to err on the side of democracy. I sort of really don't care about any specific POTUS or party or politician as much as I care about that.
@jackjjackson I got no beef with you. I'll just never ever sit quiet to the suggestion that people silence their voices. Even the most idiotic political speech is protected by the 1st amendment.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I didn’t delete him as others do when users don’t stay on topic. He may write whatever he wants within the realm of civility and it is given the attention it merits. @CopperCicada
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SW-User
I will never support the low-intelligence racist bigot in the white house. HE is bad for the US.
SW-User
@jackjjackson Yep, yes, affirmative, unquestionably, beyond a doubt.
katielass · F
@SW-User I don't think he cares whether a moron supports him, he will just keep on getting the job done and beating the left at every turn.
katielass · F
@SW-User You are the only one mentioning race so I must conclude you are the racist. The rest of us will just keep plugging along trying to make this country better for all Americans. Putting all Americans ahead of illegal aliens and foreigners. Getting trade deals that don't screw Americans of all colours. Yep, you just keep wallowing in that racist mindset while the rest of us move forward.
nedkelly · 61-69, M
YEP YEP YEP - The simpleton democrats aka libtards are still happy to sit back and complain. OK Democrats who is the democrat leader who will be challenging for the 2020 presidency. Democrats should be accepting defeat and move forward
katielass · F
@jackjjackson IDK but he seems to have lost some of his snark. I think its the slow realization that trump isn't going to be arrested or impeached and hillary and oblamo are the ones whose asses are in a sling with the new investigations of them going on now.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Low T ? @katielass
katielass · F
@jackjjackson Quite likely.
NorthernRoses · 22-25, F
Yo Donald ain't America, you can support the US while still disliking the fool.

Also, Donald Trump is a dude who keeps making really, [i]really[/i] bad decisions and comments, lies and makes up shit like he enjoys having his pants on fire, and whines about people on twitter because he never mentally left 7th grade, apparently. He does a lot of stuff a President simply shouldn't do, and people should always be allowed to react when someone who represents your country does it badly.

My biggest problem with this shit is that the "suck it up" mindset is not good at all for a functional democracy. The mature thing is [i]not[/i] to go "oh well" and move on, it's to tell someone when they're doing something stupid. And the mature [i]answer[/i] would be to take it to heart and try to assure the people that the thing they did [i]isn't[/i] stupid.

Donald's doing neither, people get frustrated, and they should be allowed to be.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So name calling is your rationale with nothing to back it upa. @NorthernRoses
Meisje · 31-35, F
Did Americans do that for Obama?
MethDozer · M
@katielass Actually no. It's been proven that it wasn't started by Hillary's campaign though they most certainly were Birthers as well. She and her campaign spewed it, yet they weren't the first.


NO, I said people still bitch about Obama. I brought up the ninnies who still rant and rave about him to highlight the hypocrisy of telling people who oppose Trump need to get over it.
katielass · F
@MethDozer Her campaign was the first to feed the story to the media so it would be reported. That is a fact, admitted to by several in her 2008 campaign.
MethDozer · M
@katielass She did not start it. They only used it and by doing so gave it more momentum. Which is bad enough. She's a cunt just like Trump is.
JessieB · 31-35, F
I avoid any extensive interaction with trumpers so my brain doesn’t corrode, however, I'll consume a rationed quantity of your misguided logic now and then. It really helps to understand why your twisted minds operate the way they do. Mature? If you [b]still[/b] support trump then you are content with being on the wrong side of history, the law and basic human decency. You are not among the majority of Americans who want better. We are organized and relentless. We are going to take back Congress. And that's just the beginning. [b]That is maturity![/b]
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Good luck with trying that one as a defense. @JessieB
JessieB · 31-35, F
@jackjjackson I don't have to, Mueller's on it. 😏
eli1601 · 70-79, M
@JessieB You hope 😂
smiler2012 · 56-60
jackjacksonjr I respect you are entitled to your opinions but when are you people going to wake up and smell the coffee and see this idiot for what he is a dangerous sexist bigot it seems every time he opens his mouth these days his words upset some minority
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So you would continue to be in the hater column 👀 @smiler2012
smiler2012 · 56-60
@jackjjackson not hater that is strong I admit I do not like the man and cringe every time he opens his mouth wondering what garbage he is going to spew out
Northwest · M
Do you really want to use the word "mature" in a thread about our current President?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Another nice try. The two words are used in two different sentences 😉 @Northwest
Northwest · M
@jackjjackson Hmm. The words "mature" and "candidate" appeared in the same sentence.

Nevertheless, if the President wants to be respected, he should start acting mature. He also should stop trying so hard to convince us he's a racist.

Not liking Trump does not equate to not wanting the US to improve. Some of us believe he's causing permanent damage to our country, and the very principles it was built on.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
It says “my preferred candidate did not win”. Another nice try 😉. Reasoned dissent which you provide differs from ranting hate. @Northwest
eli1601 · 70-79, M
But then, who would we laugh at? We need the Trump haters just for entertainment value.
DanteC98 · M
[b][c=#008099]As much as I don't care for politics, I have learned to not pay much attention to DT. The fact that he can be as old as my father and grandfather combined and use Twitter to not just insult others but also to be a straight-up jackass, I don't care about his presence. Yes, he's our president for time being but mentally, he's not my president. Not a hater just don't like him even before when he was on celebrity apprentice. But I will say, I do respect him because he truly takes pride in being an ass and a real fool. At least he's being who he is lol I'll give him that.[/c][/b]
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So you would continue to be in the hater column 👀 @DanteC98
DanteC98 · M
[b][c=#008099]A real hater would seek every minute of their life to speak of the man, create memes, hate him in videos and anti-trump forums. But in this case, this is the first I'm actually discussing him, so...👍 but thank you for the letting me have the opportunity to comment. 😇[/c][/b]
SW-User
Not about the election anymore...just listen to the shit hole...then you will figure it out
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
What facts do you have to sport any contention that you have not benefited from exactly that over the past year? .@SW-User
SW-User
You say this a great deal...
Your tactics are tiresome...
I am out@jackjjackson
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
I didn’t even ask him a hard question. Huh. @SW-User
Graylight · 51-55, F
What you call moving on, many liberals consider going along, and in a direction they don't agree with.

Opposition is not stagnation; it's a change of course. "Trump haters," as you call them, have long since moved on and are busy every day turning the country back around.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
If you’ve “moved on” why persist? @Graylight
Graylight · 51-55, F
@jackjjackson Because sometimes "moving on" means fixing other peoples' sh*t.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So you would continue to be in the hater column 👀 @Graylight
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
Yes but they are deluded. Times a tickin'....next week should be quite interesting. Sealed indictments are beginning to be unsealed among other things.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Which Dems will be defendants? @cherokeepatti
cherokeepatti · 61-69, F
BlackHeart · 31-35, M
After all the shit trump has been stirring its hard to blame them.. though it is kinda funny to watch
Casheyane · F
I'm no American. But we have the same issue in my country. I think your point is valid. But not all people can be mature enough, and we really couldn't say our president is perfect. I guess it depends.
NiftyWhite · 46-50, F
Generally you don’t hear too much from the side that doesn’t agree but this time it’s been much different.
katielass · F
I don't much care. They're mostly just hurting themselves.
SW-User
Zonuss · 41-45, M
I would take you seriously here. But because of your posts here, I cant bring myself to do that. ☺
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
So you would continue to be in the hater column 👀 @Zonuss
MethDozer · M
Yeah right. People are still bitching about Obama in every other breath. Oh yeah that's different because of "reasons".
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MethDozer · M
@jackjjackson 👎boooo!
MethDozer · M
WTF? Another deleted reply? Jesduse christ? I realy did miss snowflake meltdown.

 
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