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CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Oh let's be clear. Israel won.
Israel did exactly what it wanted to the only thing it has lost is its international reputation. With Israel funding and aiding Hamas for years while making life increasingly impossibel in Gaza, Hamas finally did something to give Israel its casus belli for a genocide.
In the name of taking out Hamas Israel has indiscriminately destroyed all of Gaza and slaughtered what at this point is uncounted numbers of people, most of whom are children. The western nations that created and fund Israel paid for all of this through our tax dollars, and did nothing of note to try and stop any of it.
Israel wants the murder and/or removal of every Palestinian from Gaza and West Bank so the land can be settled. And they are getting it.
This will also potentially lead to Israel's destruction because of how destabilizing this is. But we'll see.
As of now, Israel has ABSOLUTELY won and yet people are still breathlessly talking about these dozens of hostages like the tens of thousands of innocents (most of them children) killed in response somehow don't qualify as human beings.
Israel did exactly what it wanted to the only thing it has lost is its international reputation. With Israel funding and aiding Hamas for years while making life increasingly impossibel in Gaza, Hamas finally did something to give Israel its casus belli for a genocide.
In the name of taking out Hamas Israel has indiscriminately destroyed all of Gaza and slaughtered what at this point is uncounted numbers of people, most of whom are children. The western nations that created and fund Israel paid for all of this through our tax dollars, and did nothing of note to try and stop any of it.
Israel wants the murder and/or removal of every Palestinian from Gaza and West Bank so the land can be settled. And they are getting it.
This will also potentially lead to Israel's destruction because of how destabilizing this is. But we'll see.
As of now, Israel has ABSOLUTELY won and yet people are still breathlessly talking about these dozens of hostages like the tens of thousands of innocents (most of them children) killed in response somehow don't qualify as human beings.
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NerdyPotato · M
@Arboven oh yes, and not just on this site. That's still pretty much the narrative of most main stream news outlets.
NerdyPotato · M
They still call Hamas a terrorist organization, and the genocide imposed by Israel a war, merely conflict or even defense.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
Humanity lost.
NerdyPotato · M
Nobody won indeed, and probably only the shooting and rockets will stop. Israel will most likely continue the apartheid regime, create more illegal settlements and obstruct humanitarian aid, so the suffering will still continue.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
A ceasefire makes restarting the war the goal. The side that's got all the choices is always on top. Inside the West y'all don't know who that is. So y'all's choices is y'all's choices and yup - let God deliver you justice.
The mothers of the hostages. That's enough for me.
@EarthlingWise and three Israeli and dozens of Palestinian mothers are celebrating tonight 😊
PiecingBabyFaceTogether · 31-35, M
@EarthlingWise Everyone is celebrating
@PiecingBabyFaceTogether with different chants.
Northwest · M
The likelihood of a deal on Sunday is slim to none.
MartinII · 70-79, M
Nothing has changed, which is why Hamas might be said to have won. But with Trump in the White House there's at least some hope for western interests in the Middle East.
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BabyLonia · F
No winners, at least the killing has stopped for now
PiecingBabyFaceTogether · 31-35, M
@BabyLonia Yes and some people went home to their families which is good