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…but I understand that it must be respected even if the people who made it aren’t.

What does “400 seconds to Tel Aviv” mean?
When it’s coming from Iran 🇮🇷 and you live in Israel 🇮🇱 it means that you’re in the crosshairs of a mortal enemy with capabilities that you can’t ignore. It seems like war is an inevitable consequence and with 2 aircraft carriers and 2 separate support fleets with an unknown number of submarines, the US is poised to act as well. I really don’t want to have to explain this stuff to my niece and nephews because they are so young and innocent but they are so perceptive too. They see and hear far more than we could ever imagine.
And this is the only the beginning… hopefully not the end as well 😔
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Diotrephes · 70-79, M
It's strictly a numbers game. If Iran can launch a nuke atack that will utterly destroy Israel with one blow then it will win regardless of any counter-attack on it. Iran has a larger population and it's larger than Israel. So, even if Iran was to lose 20 or even 30 million people in a counter attack it would still have accomplished its goal, which is the complete and final destruction of Israel.

It would be stupid for Iran to attack Israel with conventional weapons because it would be a no-win war for them. It needs at least 6 large nukes that it can use before they are detected. A dozen nukes would be a sure winner. The best way to do that is to smuggle them into the target areas in Israel and then blow them up. That might be hard to do but it can be done.

https://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/israel_map2.htm

From the River to the Sea and From the Sea to the River Jordan.
2cool4school · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes That becomes a very tricky “game” to play when you introduce the nuclear option. I definitely see what you’re saying though. I’m hoping that they take the fallout into consideration as well as what the actual achieved outcome would be. Thank you for your input. I welcome more input from any and all to form an educational discussion. Even if only hypothetical scenarios can be explored it’s still interesting to me at least. Hope you’re having a great weekend too.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@2cool4school
That becomes a very tricky “game” to play when you introduce the nuclear option. I definitely see what you’re saying though. I’m hoping that they take the fallout into consideration as well as what the actual achieved outcome would be. Thank you for your input. I welcome more input from any and all to form an educational discussion. Even if only hypothetical scenarios can be explored it’s still interesting to me at least. Hope you’re having a great weekend too.

Fallout has not been a major concern in the past. After all, there have been 510 nuclear bombs exploded in the atmosphere (3 during WWII and 507 since 1945).

From the River to the Sea and From the Sea to the River Jordan.
2cool4school · 46-50, F
@Diotrephes I understand what you’re saying but I believe that it is the concentration of the radiation that is the biggest danger and factor in determining how to use a nuke. “Tactical nukes” supposedly have a low yield vs their destructive capabilities. I’m thinking and I don’t have much of a background in the use of these two and three stage weapons systems but it would probably make this highly coveted holy land into an uninhabitable zone. And maybe that’s exactly what the enemies of Israel (and the coalition forces as a whole) want?! Idk ?! But toxic dust particles that are spread by the regions dust storms and other atmospheric phenomena would certainly cause some sort of impact and problem for the neighbors of Israel 🇮🇱. But again I just don’t know enough about what would happen if nukes get used.
It sounds like the current concern is conventional weapons that are used in mass in a much more technically complex but still similar nature to the Hamas attack on October 7th. I doubt that Iran is going to use the fleet of F-14s they bought from the US if they even have them in functional attack status anymore. (Such a strange and crooked history)
I think the most interesting thing that I learned or was demonstrated by someone who worked in the intelligence community was that the reason for the Middle East’s history of conflict and violence has more to do with resources that aren’t plentiful enough to share. And this excludes oil and other commodities that are mined by traditional methods.
The analogy given was that if their are 2 tribes and only so many date trees 🌴 or olive 🫒 trees etc then there is going to be conflict between those tribes over who has a right to feed their people, their families. And seeing it through that simplified lens made a lot more sense as to why things are the way they are in the Middle East to this day.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Diotrephes It's estimated that Israel possesses somewhere between 75-400 nuclear warheads, so it wouldn't just be 25-30M Iranians dying should they attempt a first strike. Israel would probably entirely annihilate Iran as they would have the support of most of the World if Iran attacked them first with nukes that Iran doesn't even possess. Let's not forget that the US has several nuclear armed SSBN's in the Persian Gulf that could also unleash warheads at Iran. Iran is a Country very full of itself at it's Military capabilities, the facts speak very differently though.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@spjennifer
It's estimated that Israel possesses somewhere between 75-400 nuclear warheads, so it wouldn't just be 25-30M Iranians dying should they attempt a first strike. Israel would probably entirely annihilate Iran as they would have the support of most of the World if Iran attacked them first with nukes that Iran doesn't even possess. Let's not forget that the US has several nuclear armed SSBN's in the Persian Gulf that could also unleash warheads at Iran. Iran is a Country very full of itself at it's Military capabilities, the facts speak very differently though.

It doesn't matter if Iran gets hit with nukes in return as long as they completely destroy Israel. And if the US fires nukes at Iran without being under attack itself, there will be hell to pay all across America against the Washington dummies. If people were sane and rational there would never be any wars but humans love to be ruled by crazy people.

BTW, it is Israel who is eager to attack Iran because the zionists are genocidal maniacs.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-must-prepare-for-war-with-iran-without-us-help-former-nsa-chief-says/

From the River to the Sea and From the Sea to the River Jordan.
spjennifer · 61-69, T
@Diotrephes Well, Amidror is a hawk who wishes for war, doesn't mean the rest of Israel agrees with either him or Netanyahu. Should Iran even want to attack Israel, our conventional forces would help Israel, even if that just meant providing surveillance, intelligence or whatever assistance we could provide without firing a shot, doesn't mean we won't. I don't believe that Iran has nukes, nor is anywhere near getting them either and with conventional weapons, Israel will wipe out their ability pretty quickly. Iran has neither the aircraft, nor the missiles they think they have to take on the full might of the much more modern IDF.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@spjennifer There is more than one way to get nukes into Israel. You just have to be willing to do it.

From the River to the Sea and From the Sea to the River Jordan.