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The Greatest Gathering UK

For those interested in rail but outside the UK we have just had a very big rail event in Derby.

https://www.thegreatestgathering.co.uk/

I wasn't able to attend but there is lots of coverage out there for anyone interested.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
That didn't do itself any favours though!

A brief item on yesterday's edition of Broadcasting House revealed whoever designed the sound effects for an event celebrating the 200th Anniversary of one of Britain's most significant inventions, used a recording of an American locomotive whistle and warning-bell! *

I cannot judge if that was by ignorance compounded by incompetence, or bloody-minded lazyness, by the show's designers..... Both perhaps.

I explored that website, which is only really an advertisement for the events.

Including this:

Hitachi Open Day, Newton Aycliffe, Co. Durham


Why the Hell are there no British companies not building British locomotives and rolling-stock in Britain for the country's network?

That, by the way, is Sold Out, it says.

......

*(For non-British readers, British steam-locomotives had higher-pitched whistles than American ones, and with I think only one exception never used bells. The point though was that the recordings should have been of British locomotives!

The exception? It was an odd one. A bell was fitted on the small locomotives used to take trains between the main line and the harbour in Weymouth, as the short branch-line ran, unfenced, tram-like, along some of the streets including residential ones. The normal whistle would have been too loud there. There may have been others, but never on the main lines.)
Thinkingdeeper · 36-40, M
@ArishMell the link maybe wasn't the best to share but have a quick search on the likes of YouTube will bring footage of the event. One news report here

[media=https://youtu.be/sIis9O9tqMc?si=4xsE6_qzvG6v-EaM]

The derby site is the nearest you will get to a UK rail builder left in the UK.

Can't really say to much on whistles but practices were shared in different countries.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Thinkingdeeper Thankyou.

Alstom is French (I know it is a foreign company but thought it Swedish).

Hitachi of course, is Japanese - I first noticed their name on a train several years ago.

When the railways were private companies, before nationalising in the 1940s, they built, operated and maintained all their own equipment, in their own plant. A degree of standardising allowed all vehicles built anywhere to be coupled and operated together. State-owned British Railways continued both their own manufacturing, and that compatibility.

Then privatised again the ownership and operating was fragmented and handed by politicians who barely know a train from a locomotive, to all sorts of operating and leasing companies without care as to need, cost, ownership and ability.

If I travel to the North of England from home in the South, the first leg, to Bristol, is courtesy of the First Group, which is British, based in Edinburgh. The rest is run by a State-owned company: Germany's nationalised Deutschebahn! So the profit from that part of my fare is helping Germany, not the UK.

One practical result - I discovered when my own train was delayed by this - being that if a train breaks down it cannot easily be recovered and towed to a convenient station because none of the locomotives and rolling-stock are sufficiently compatible as they once all were. A railway staff member told me that when I enquired about possible alternatives. I also asked if they can't just commandeer the nearest freight locomotive to rescue the failed passenger train as would have been possible. He told me the designs now differ too much, and added, "That's privatising for you!"

Another - though this is probably either Network Rail or political interference to blame - is the failure to complete electrifying the main lines around Bristol. Apparently they ran out of money, but that would not suprise me. For instead of using the same, very simple overhead-wires columns as in the North of England they specified massive steel davits you could suspend the train from!

 
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