Is it really a "DUI" if you're riding in a self-driving vehicle?
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SandWitch · 26-30, F
If you are in possession of the key to the vehicle, you will be charged with a DUI because you have what's known as 'care and control' of the vehicle, which means you can turn off the self-drive mode at any time and operate it if you so desire. That also means you are in control of the vehicle while drunk.
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@sladejr
[quote] And you could drunkenly walk by your car with the key in your pocket. After all "you could drive it if you so desire"[/quote]
No, once again you are wrong slade. You've been wrong a lot lately I've noticed.
The only time that 'care and control' becomes a valid charge is if you are INSIDE the vehicle at the time law enforcement officers discover you have the ignition key in your possession, even if it's the vehicle's electronic key fob.
Even if you are drunk and fast asleep in the backseat with the car parked in a parking lot but you have the vehicle's key in your possession, you will be charged with 'care and control' of a vehicle while intoxicated. That is the law.
[quote] And you could drunkenly walk by your car with the key in your pocket. After all "you could drive it if you so desire"[/quote]
No, once again you are wrong slade. You've been wrong a lot lately I've noticed.
The only time that 'care and control' becomes a valid charge is if you are INSIDE the vehicle at the time law enforcement officers discover you have the ignition key in your possession, even if it's the vehicle's electronic key fob.
Even if you are drunk and fast asleep in the backseat with the car parked in a parking lot but you have the vehicle's key in your possession, you will be charged with 'care and control' of a vehicle while intoxicated. That is the law.
sladejr · 56-60, M
@SandWitch Maybe in your frozen backwater that's the case. Here, if the car was never started (thus a cold engine and no key in the ignition) you can't be charged with Operating Under Influence.
See there's a technicality, if the car isn't started it is not operating
Amazing how that works
See there's a technicality, if the car isn't started it is not operating
Amazing how that works
SandWitch · 26-30, F
@sladejr
Actually, you're wrong. First of all, you have no clue what I'm talking about. Operating Under the Influence is NOT 'Care and Control'. Operating Under the Influence applies when a vehicle is in motion, or the engine is running and you're sitting behind the wheel intoxicated while parked.
Care and Control applies when the vehicle is NOT in motion, nor is the engine running, but you are inside the vehicle with the key in your possession and are ABLE to operate the vehicle if you so desired while intoxicated. Therein lies the difference.
The law I speak of is fully enforced in Scandinavia where I'm from and which you probably couldn't find on a map using both hands if you tried, plus all of Europe, plus all of Canada, plus all of that backwoods nation where you live that's doing it's best not to fall into Third World status as we speak.
Actually, you're wrong. First of all, you have no clue what I'm talking about. Operating Under the Influence is NOT 'Care and Control'. Operating Under the Influence applies when a vehicle is in motion, or the engine is running and you're sitting behind the wheel intoxicated while parked.
Care and Control applies when the vehicle is NOT in motion, nor is the engine running, but you are inside the vehicle with the key in your possession and are ABLE to operate the vehicle if you so desired while intoxicated. Therein lies the difference.
The law I speak of is fully enforced in Scandinavia where I'm from and which you probably couldn't find on a map using both hands if you tried, plus all of Europe, plus all of Canada, plus all of that backwoods nation where you live that's doing it's best not to fall into Third World status as we speak.
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