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Used Car Buying Advice

I am currently trying to buy a used car. I am a classic trope: a broke/struggling college student. I am graduating from uni in December of this year. I need a car badly. I only have between 3k and 3,500 total to spend on a vehicle. I see a lot of cars on the Facebook marketplace. I am terrified of getting scammed. I have a few men in my family who know a lot about cars. They are willing to assist me in looking for a vehicle. I have a dilemma. I have been reaching out to potential sellers, and I've offered to pay for a diagnostic test before I buy the car. I don't trust buying a car without knowing what I am getting. I see cars that are below my price range. I know it is a risk to pay for a vehicle cheaper than 3k, heck, even 3k is a risky price. But, I wonder if I go cheaper would it be smarter? Maybe I can invest the extra grand into any car troubles the car may have...Idk, will someone please give me some advice? I need a car asap. I need to have a vehicle by the time I graduate so that I can have transportation for work. I currently live with my mom. I left my job and abusive ex...long story. I am pretty sure I've written about it on here.
CestManan · 46-50, F
Oh yeah trying to buy a car is a headache all around, especially if someone doesn't have a fortune to spend. Plus once you buy it, it is yours. Even if it craps out on the way home, it is no longer the seller's problem.

Toyota or Honda are usually the best bet. I trust Toyota the most. American cars are junk.

If they do not have the title in their name - avoid it, no matter how good the deal seems otherwise. Could be a stolen car.

If something seems too good to be true than it probably is.

If it says anything about transmission problems then just avoid it because there is no cheap nor simple fix for that.

Also, look up a potential car on carcomplaints.com no matter what year make and model you are thinking of getting. If engine and/or transmission problems top the list then try to avoid. Sadly enough, early 2000's hondas were known for transmission issues. I know that contradicts what I said above but just at least investigate that site.
@CestManan Yeah, have more sense about buying shit than wanting to show off.

I can show off on having my beastly computer anyways so satsifying when the guys who come over to help me put it together are like HOLY JESUS you're building a monster.

And then the look on their face when I'm like yeah, and then I'm installing Kali Linux and using it for Hashcat.

learning how to use nmap and write a little code and become an advanced persistent threat myself.

[media=https://youtu.be/5k1DxCbGqUQ] My CPU.

and then there's this too

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water cooled.

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CestManan · 46-50, F
One other thing - whatever the seller says about the car's condition, take with a grain of salt because they might say whatever you want to hear. They may not know about some problems the car has or they may not mention it OR might downplay it like, "Oh that is an easy fix, $20 part at the junk yard."

If it were easy, they would have done it.
GunFinger · F
@CestManan that's what happened to my friend. Sold the car for $7,000, had so much problems, seller couldn't be contacted, my friend is now selling it for less than $2,000.
CestManan · 46-50, F
@GunFinger I don't know how it is in your country but here in the United States unless you buy a car from a dealer with a warranty you are pretty much stuck with it. I mean if it blows up halfway down the road then it's just tough
Highskirt · 56-60, M
Some of the better cars are trade ins at a dealership .i strongly recommend taking someone to check the car over before you buy .most private sellers are selling their car as its got too excited to keep repairs it .good luck
I know this is late advice, but here's some info.

1) Reference
I would look for the annual car issue of [i]Consumer Reports,[/i] because the summarized information about how specific cars have fared, repairwise, over time (tables in the back). It brings together the collective experience of hundreds of thousands of auto owners, which is a much broader basis of experience than a few personal anecdotes & biases.

When I bought my first vehicle, I used that information to only look at vehicles which had "above average" or better performance regarding engine, transmission, etc., problems. That led me to discovering NUMMI, a plant in California jointly-run by GM & Toyota where the former built versons of the latter's vehicles, and had great longevity with few problems.

Though the partnership was disbanded (the plant was bought by Tesla), the GM crypto-Corollas (Chevy Nova II, Geo Prizm) and crypto-Matrixes (Pontiac Vibe) have been great, long-lived cars which owners have loved.

2) This is a particularly bad time, because of how even used car prices have soared.

I think buying from an individual is hard, but having any used vehicle checked out is well worth it.

BE AWARE OF REAL EVIDENCE OF FLOOD-DAMAGED VEHICLES.

3) Routine maintenance of vehicles is incredibly important, incl. changing the oil/oil filter, engine & air cabin filters, checking/topping off brake, transmission, and coolant fluids, checking tire air pressure, and even flushing the radiator. Checking the brakes (incl. testing the master cylinder) & spark plugs is also a good idea. And, on older vehicles, visual inspection of the rubber "boots" near each front wheel can prevent a costly repair.

4) You might save by buying a standard (manual) transmission, too, if you cam drive one.
Fluffybull · F
I'd go to a reputable dealership. Let one of the sales staff know what you're looking for. They could get a decent, cheap used car as a trade in that is maybe a bit old to appeal to their main customers so they would send it to an auction rather than put it on forecourt. Let them know you'd be interested in a car like that. They should check car, service and might give some warranty. Good luck.
If seller says no to having a shop look it over avoid the car. You can spend as much or as little as you want and get both a great deal for a good car and a horrible deal on a bad car.
Oster1 · M
Buy a runable Toyota. Any year/model. Have it checked out!
Be VERY careful buying online. The midwest and south and some eastern states even have had massive flooding over the past 2 months. Lots of cars that were partially underwater...have had water in the transmissions and rear ends and were considered "totaled" by insurance companies are now being "cleaned up" and sold to unsuspecting buyers.
plasticpants02 · 61-69, M
Personally id buy private. Way better price and they will haggle more. You just have to be patient and know what your looking for. I try to buy off people that are ocd/clean freaks. The vehicle will be well kept and if they have maintenance records you can see what is done. Carfax will tell you if any accidents and body work.
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Do you need a car, or could you survive with a motorcycle/motorscooter? It would be much cheaper, all around, with mileage and everything, getting licensed and all. Otherwise sorry but I would suggest not using FB, I've read about too many scams & dangerous situations. Certain brands of vehicles run a long time, even with a lot of miles. Maybe ask your family if they can help you with finding a car with a lot of miles but a well maintained engine.
Saucylover · 26-30, F
@lovelywarpedlemon That's what my mom said. My family is going to help me. But I guess I am trying to get ahead of things. She doesn't want me to use the marketplace because it can be dangerous. My sister purchased a car via the marketplace, and it has been running pretty well for the last two years. She has had to get minor work done here and there to maintain it, but other than that, it's a good car. I am going to be patient and see what happens. I would prefer a car. I have a fear of motorcycles due to a childhood incident.
@Saucylover understand, motos are dangerous as well. I wish you luck on your search! 🖤
WindTherapy · 56-60, M
@Saucylover Patience will be key here. Don't just jump at the first thing you see. As mentioned do a little research on what you think you want to find it's general reliability. Then use that assistance from family to help look it over. Best of luck to you.
fun4us2b · M
Like the others said a reliable brand like Toyota, Honda - but also run a Carfax check on the VIN# - so you can be sure the car wasn't previously totaled
SW-User
Always get a used car checked out ..but for 3 grand you outta know you are buying a lemon ! 3 grand as is will bet you a used 100,000 miles plus vehicle .. my suggestion is buying a new used one from a dealership where they will do a 5 star/point inspection before selling it
Reject · 26-30, M
This probably won’t help much, but I heard about a good site on a podcast for buying and selling cars called edmunds. The full disclaimer is I haven’t used it myself, but it looks pretty good. It could be worth looking into at the very least. Here’s a link. I wish you the best.

https://www.edmunds.com/
Fullmetal · 46-50, M
@Saucylover you're in a tough dilemma unfortunately! There are many people out there who will prey on you, few are honest! Your best bet is to find a friend who's mechanically inclined and bring them with you, let them test drive too. Or, buy off someone you know and trust, even if it's a bit more $$$.
GunFinger · F
Don't buy from Marketplace. I have a friend who bought a car worth AUD7,000 from there and she got jipped. There's a lot of trouble with the car so she tried to contact the seller and this person never answered and her calls.
Saucylover · 26-30, F
@GunFinger Thank you!
olderuncle944 · 70-79, M
try to find a toyota in your price range hondas are good cars but sell more than a Toyota a 2002 toyota is a good target price and find some to scan it for you if the scanner shows not ready codes walk away some one erased the codes im a retired mechanic
gdon39 · 41-45, M
Do you know what a car fax history of a vehicle is?
Saucylover · 26-30, F
@gdon39 Yes, I am.
gdon39 · 41-45, M
@Saucylover start with what you expect for $3,500? Are you going to drive many miles each day? Would you mind sending me a message instead of on this thread?
Saucylover · 26-30, F
@gdon39 Ok, I just messaged you.
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SW-User
NEVER, buy a second hand car without a diagnostic test
Saucylover · 26-30, F
@SW-User I think that's why the sellers are not responding to me lol. I said a diagnostic test was mandatory before purchase.
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Saucylover · 26-30, F
@allygator18 I would prefer not to do that. I am looking to buy something in cash.
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Saucylover · 26-30, F
@allygator18 Yep, looks like it lol.
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WindTherapy · 56-60, M
@swirlie I'll have to remember this advice! Especially when I see a shiny tool I want that I don't already have in my arsenal.

But you're insight here is spot on from what I've seen (although without near as much true analysis). I like to play on tractors but it's not a source of income per se. It's antique by today's standards but still serves my purpose. I loosely follow with interest the "right to repair" lawsuits that have been filed against John Deere. Today's modern farmer and their technology is so different than those a generation ago. I still wonder if the old timers with their aged equipment aren't more profitable per acre due to outgoing costs of modern machinery and tech services.

That's cool you ride a bike. So you're not completely void of your own transportation. That does make it somewhat easier. Ride safe. :)
@swirlie I have had vehicles last with very few repairs, but I bought well-built vehicles, and did many repairs myself.

 
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