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SteelHands · 61-69, M
Yay oh yay i think domestic vineyards already are foreign labor. He's just keeping that particular US business as it already is. And being fair to both the already existing foreign families in an industry that has a long and honoraboy distinguished historical familial precedent.
You rather see NAPA valley go bankrupt and a hundred grape growers out of business cause I don't.
You rather see NAPA valley go bankrupt and a hundred grape growers out of business cause I don't.
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
Dlrannie · 31-35, F
These are new people they want to bring in not established families in the industry
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@CassandraFemale17: You kids are to young to remember that we boycotted grapes years ago to lift the immigrant vintners wages and welcome these immigrant families here. The conservatives were very instrumental in that particular industries successes back then. Why would the vino enthusiasts want to hurt them now?
These are good people and Trump is doing the right things in that area. His platform supports ceasing US tax funded manufacturing job exportation and to stop border jumping that amounts to draining the customary jobs market in other areas that Americans historically work. Our fathers walked picket lines and families went hungry, lost homes, and went to bat for one another in the steel and construction industries.
The vast influxes of South border hopping cheap labor piggybacking several families to a dwelling for big industries puts a tax burden on schools, medicine, food, transportations, c... and other living costs for Joe American working guy. While the jobs they need to raise their own families are drying up. Joe working guy doesn't care about grape pickers.
Building any fence or wall to halt that crap is needed. Our families are at stake here.
These are good people and Trump is doing the right things in that area. His platform supports ceasing US tax funded manufacturing job exportation and to stop border jumping that amounts to draining the customary jobs market in other areas that Americans historically work. Our fathers walked picket lines and families went hungry, lost homes, and went to bat for one another in the steel and construction industries.
The vast influxes of South border hopping cheap labor piggybacking several families to a dwelling for big industries puts a tax burden on schools, medicine, food, transportations, c... and other living costs for Joe American working guy. While the jobs they need to raise their own families are drying up. Joe working guy doesn't care about grape pickers.
Building any fence or wall to halt that crap is needed. Our families are at stake here.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@Dlrannie: Wine is one of the a growth industries too. Just like Beer was in the early 1800s. German families were showing up in generations to bring many agricultural secrets of this specialty trade with them when they arrived. They had something new to offer. That's why America opens the gates.
Immigration is used for a purpose. To strengthen our country. Not to weaken the labor market.
Immigration is used for a purpose. To strengthen our country. Not to weaken the labor market.
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@Noahkahol:
Why the lecture? There's not much you've said I disagree with. Illegal is illegal. I can still dislike Trump even when I know some things he believes in are correct.
My parents and grandparents have spoken many times of Che Guevara, RFK, the plight of farm workers during the 60's and since. Many times too, of the advances for th working poor and middle class. But there's more to running a country than just that issue, and it's on many other issues, and on the lack of character in himself, I find great distaste with, and have many issues with.
Just because he had a tv show, and then successfully hijacked the primaries doesn't make him a Saint.
I wish him well, but it has nothing to do with what I wish. It has far more to do with what he has done, and with the actions of those that he has surrounded himself have done.
And for that, should he have done wrong he will be dealt with. Do I believe he has done wrong?
Of course.
He has done so his entire career.
Why should he have changed to win the Presidency?
Why the lecture? There's not much you've said I disagree with. Illegal is illegal. I can still dislike Trump even when I know some things he believes in are correct.
My parents and grandparents have spoken many times of Che Guevara, RFK, the plight of farm workers during the 60's and since. Many times too, of the advances for th working poor and middle class. But there's more to running a country than just that issue, and it's on many other issues, and on the lack of character in himself, I find great distaste with, and have many issues with.
Just because he had a tv show, and then successfully hijacked the primaries doesn't make him a Saint.
I wish him well, but it has nothing to do with what I wish. It has far more to do with what he has done, and with the actions of those that he has surrounded himself have done.
And for that, should he have done wrong he will be dealt with. Do I believe he has done wrong?
Of course.
He has done so his entire career.
Why should he have changed to win the Presidency?
SteelHands · 61-69, M
CassandraFemale17 · 26-30, F
@Noahkahol: that can be said of anyone.
Charles Manson too.
Trump is President. He doesn't have to walk on water. Butnspaking the truth when he does speak would be nice for starters.
The bar for you and I is not the same as for the President of the United States. I guess his bar allows p**** grabbing.
My bar says he is a disgusting pig who bullied his way in, and hijacked the primaries, and uses lies, deflection, diversion, and a host of other tactics to own the news cycle. Not that the 'cream of the GOP' he was faced with had the testicles to stand up to him or anything. They folded like eunuchs.
Anyone heard from Jeb lately? Still licking his scars?
Charles Manson too.
Trump is President. He doesn't have to walk on water. Butnspaking the truth when he does speak would be nice for starters.
The bar for you and I is not the same as for the President of the United States. I guess his bar allows p**** grabbing.
My bar says he is a disgusting pig who bullied his way in, and hijacked the primaries, and uses lies, deflection, diversion, and a host of other tactics to own the news cycle. Not that the 'cream of the GOP' he was faced with had the testicles to stand up to him or anything. They folded like eunuchs.
Anyone heard from Jeb lately? Still licking his scars?
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@CassandraFemale17: What's your point?