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AlphaPuppy · 26-30, M
It was because ep was doing things (technically) illegally and impeding federal investigations by allowing and fighting for complete anonymity and refusing warrants for data information, they have to say there's no affiliation for legal reasons
Serenity7 · 26-30, F
So is there? (Also cute name)
AlphaPuppy · 26-30, M
Well they are connected, but technically they aren't, legally they aren't anything to do with each other
Faust76 · 46-50, M
Founder of Experience Project states the new start-ups have neither connection nor endorsement of EP, coming across as mighty critical:
https://www.quora.com/Are-there-other-web-sites-similar-to-Experience-Project
I'm absolutely sure there's no affiliation. And if EP did something illegal themselves, they'd been sued regardless, but it's likely that the anti-terrorist laws giving sweeping access to communication featured into EP's decision to shut down.
However, all the illegal activity going on within EP would also have been a huge liability, with a risk (Really surprised if that risk didn't come true already...) of EP users ending up victims of crime and abuse, so I can totally understand EP's decision to shut down, while I don't see SW having done anything to avoid that. However, they're likely co-operating better with authorities due to the new laws etc.
https://www.quora.com/Are-there-other-web-sites-similar-to-Experience-Project
I'm absolutely sure there's no affiliation. And if EP did something illegal themselves, they'd been sued regardless, but it's likely that the anti-terrorist laws giving sweeping access to communication featured into EP's decision to shut down.
However, all the illegal activity going on within EP would also have been a huge liability, with a risk (Really surprised if that risk didn't come true already...) of EP users ending up victims of crime and abuse, so I can totally understand EP's decision to shut down, while I don't see SW having done anything to avoid that. However, they're likely co-operating better with authorities due to the new laws etc.
Serenity7 · 26-30, F
What laws were broken
AlphaPuppy · 26-30, M
@Serenity7: Something about non cooperation in a federal investigation being a criminal offence, I remember reading about it on a report somewhere
Faust76 · 46-50, M
@Serenity7: You may have to re-read EP's own statement on the closing at:
http://www.experienceproject.com/until-we-meet-again
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Governments and their agencies are aggressively attacking the foundations of internet privacy with a deluge of information requests, subpoenas, and warrants. We, of course, always support proper law enforcement efforts, but the well-documented potential for even abuse, even if unintentional, is enormous, and growing.
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Finally, the sophistication of "bad apples," as few as they thankfully are, has increased dramatically. They are better able to cover their tracks and evade user bans by using mobile and encryption networks, and they use information to exploit the trust of others through social engineering.
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As said, SW's really done nothing to address any of these concerns, beyond the fact that it's still much smaller than EP was.
http://www.experienceproject.com/until-we-meet-again
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Governments and their agencies are aggressively attacking the foundations of internet privacy with a deluge of information requests, subpoenas, and warrants. We, of course, always support proper law enforcement efforts, but the well-documented potential for even abuse, even if unintentional, is enormous, and growing.
...
Finally, the sophistication of "bad apples," as few as they thankfully are, has increased dramatically. They are better able to cover their tracks and evade user bans by using mobile and encryption networks, and they use information to exploit the trust of others through social engineering.
...
As said, SW's really done nothing to address any of these concerns, beyond the fact that it's still much smaller than EP was.