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Historians rank Trump among worst presidents in US history....

"Out of 44 presidents reviewed for the survey by 142 historians and professional observers of the presidency, Trump landed at 41st, the lowest ranking of any president in the past 150 years. The only presidents who ranked lower than Trump were Franklin Pierce, Andrew Johnson, and James Buchanan."
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xinbaba · 61-69, M
All I remember is $4 gas under Obama, $2 gas under Trump, and now back to $4 gas under Biden. My family is lower middle class and better of under Trump
@xinbaba Do you remember tariffs? Tariffs added a 25% extra fee.....TAX........on EVERY SINGLE THING YOU BOUGHT for 4 years. But you never noticed that????????? At 61-69...you don't remember Bush??

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xinbaba · 61-69, M
@anythingoes477 I remember the economy was indeed good under Clinton. Do you remember Carter?
As far as tariffs go they did not raise the price of my groceries. I don’t often buy cars or housing, just trying to buy Beens and milk.
@xinbaba If you bought ANYTHING at Walmart for 4 years...you paid 25% more for it than you did before tariffs. EVERY bit of produce that came from Mexico or Central America......every flower...every avacado......clothing........shoes. ANY goods you bought from someone other than local farmer producers was in the supply chain..and subject to tariffs of some amount. The word you NEVER heard before Trump was "tariff". Under Trump you never stopped hearing how proud he was of putting them in place. Whether you CHOSE to notice or not.........you were NOT better off. The tax breaks he said h would put in place for you........did you get them? How about child care credits? Get those? How about affordable healthcare? Did you get that?

You WANT to think Trump bettered you......because you voted for him. But tell me which lie he told you to get your vote he actually followed thru on that benefitted YOU? Not the stock market...or the 1%........YOU?
xinbaba · 61-69, M
@anythingoes477 milk was cheaper
@xinbaba By your own chart............it was????? When Trump took office in 2016...by your own chart..........milk was $3.20 a gallon. By 2017 (trump in office) it went UP in price per gallon. If you look up facts.......by 2018 trump's tariffs had hurt farmers so badly he gave them a $12 million bailout (his first of two bailouts totally $26 million) to make up for them bleeding money due to his tariffs. So TEMPORAIRILY milk prices dipped because of Trump bailed out farmers....after he nearly bankrupted them. By 2019........when the bailouts to farmers had ended milk starting coming up again in price. The ONLY time milk dipped in prices was AFTER it costs the rest of us $26 million in bailouts to farmers.....that came straight out of OUR taxes. YOU and I....and all taxpayers.... paid for that dip in 2018.
xinbaba · 61-69, M
@anythingoes477 you make a good point. Your thoughts on the gas price dip under Trump?
@xinbaba Again....supply and demand. Trump's presidency...failures....will go down in history as being just two things. In 10 years those 2 things will be ALL he is remembered for. 1. How he underperformed during the pandemic and 2. how he did his best to ignite a coup to destroy the country and all it stands for just to soothe his own ego and retain power for himself.

The pandemic was not so long ago you remember what the highways looked like in 2020. Absolutely zero traffic. Schools closed...restaurants closed....businesses closed....people working at home or bought off for early retirements by businesses and companies because those people had jobs that could not be done at home...and companies didn't awnt to retain them for 2 years? 3 years sitting at home...paying them the whole time to do nothing. Malls closed as shopping online bacame the new "shopping".

When no one drives ANYWHERE...they don't use gasoline. When no one buys gasoline....there is more gasoline to be sold than there are drivers to buy it. Supply...and demand. When there is a glut of anything...prices go down. But now people are back to work. Back to driving. Trucking in non-stop 24 hours a day. Planes are full again. GASOLINE IS NOW SELLING AGAIN....you can now see lines at gas stations again...buying all of the gasoline and diesel and jet fuel they can produce. So........Big Oil knows if you want it.......you are willing to pay more to get it. And when you are...they charge more. Simple economics 101. If we have it..and you want..we are gonna charge the hell out of you to get it. And they are.
xinbaba · 61-69, M
@anythingoes477 except that the gas prices came down two years BEFORE the pandemic.
@xinbaba Two years BEFORE the pandemic simply says you can't stop a freight train on a dime. When the economy bombed under Bush....it took about 19 months before the next prez could turn that around. When Clinton left office we had the lowest deficit in decades......but in 18 months it was the highest it had ever been. With an economy as large as the U.S. economy....it takes a while reverse an uphill trend or downhill one. But eventually it catches up.

The second thing here is the mis-conception FOX and FB memes sells as fact is that the president controls gas prices. In fact trump never brought gas prices down...anymore than Bush brought them up. What does affect our prices at the pump is whatever price OPEC sets. The United States has been the #1 oil and gas producer for over 10 years. But our prices go up????? Why. Because EVERY barrel we pump and sell....goes on the world market. It don't stay here. By OPEC agreement with the United States...all countries...all oil produced in each country goes on the WORLD market. OPEC sets world oil prices. So if gas goes up under Joe Blow and down under Bob Hope........it just does. When the Russian pipeline opened to Germany.....more crude hit the market. When the U.S. produces more....more crude hits the market. But OPEC wants to NEVER lose a dime...so they simply reduce their own production so the amount of oil and gas on the world market stays the same. In doing that THEY...OPEC...sets prices....so THEY keep themselves rich.

The United States has absolutely NOTHING to do with world oil prices. It is 100% supply....and demand........as set by OPEC. If a pandemic cuts the demand...prices drop. If everyone going back to work as usual...travelling more wants more gas to do that..the price goes up. Period.
fddlpej · 61-69, M
@xinbaba we will do away with fossil fuels under Biden and go to sustainable fuels that are environmentally friendly and the air will be better to breathe and the water will be cleaner. Sounds much better then using fossil fuels