My black friend said black people can't drink milk. What's wrong with milk?
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While most of the world cannot comfortably digest milk, a portion of the white population, originating from cold Scandinavian countries where drinking other species’ milk was a survival tool, can digest it with ease.
However, lactose-intolerance is not the worst of milk’s harms. Research links milk consumption to a host of serious health problems, including cancer and heart disease. There are significant [racial disparities in these milk-related illnesses, with groups including [African-Americans, Latinos], Native Americans and Native Hawaiians suffering the worst effects.
However, lactose-intolerance is not the worst of milk’s harms. Research links milk consumption to a host of serious health problems, including cancer and heart disease. There are significant [racial disparities in these milk-related illnesses, with groups including [African-Americans, Latinos], Native Americans and Native Hawaiians suffering the worst effects.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/milk-a-symbol-of-neo-nazi-hate-83292
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle even this doesn't say ALL blacks.
Just that "There are significant racial disparities..."
Significant could be around 10% or anything below 50%. More than that they would say "over a majority".
Just that "There are significant racial disparities..."
Significant could be around 10% or anything below 50%. More than that they would say "over a majority".
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
How common is lactose malabsorption?
While most infants can digest lactose, many people begin to develop lactose malabsorption—a reduced ability to digest lactose—after infancy. Experts estimate that about 68 percent of the world’s population has lactose malabsorption.1
Lactose malabsorption is more common in some parts of the world than in others. In Africa and Asia, most people have lactose malabsorption. In some regions, such as northern Europe, many people carry a gene that allows them to digest lactose after infancy, and lactose malabsorption is less common.1,2 In the United States, about 36 percent of people have lactose malabsorption.1
While lactose malabsorption causes lactose intolerance, not all people with lactose malabsorption have lactose intolerance.
Who is more likely to have lactose intolerance?
You are more likely to have lactose intolerance if you are from, or your family is from, a part of the world where lactose malabsorption is more common. In the United States, the following ethnic and racial groups are more likely to have lactose malabsorption:
African Americans
American Indians
Asian Americans
Hispanics/Latinos
Because these ethnic and racial groups are more likely to have lactose malabsorption, they are also more likely to have the symptoms of lactose intolerance.
Lactose intolerance is least common among people who are from, or whose families are from, Europe.
https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/digestive-diseases/lactose-intolerance/definition-factsWhile most infants can digest lactose, many people begin to develop lactose malabsorption—a reduced ability to digest lactose—after infancy. Experts estimate that about 68 percent of the world’s population has lactose malabsorption.1
Lactose malabsorption is more common in some parts of the world than in others. In Africa and Asia, most people have lactose malabsorption. In some regions, such as northern Europe, many people carry a gene that allows them to digest lactose after infancy, and lactose malabsorption is less common.1,2 In the United States, about 36 percent of people have lactose malabsorption.1
While lactose malabsorption causes lactose intolerance, not all people with lactose malabsorption have lactose intolerance.
Who is more likely to have lactose intolerance?
You are more likely to have lactose intolerance if you are from, or your family is from, a part of the world where lactose malabsorption is more common. In the United States, the following ethnic and racial groups are more likely to have lactose malabsorption:
African Americans
American Indians
Asian Americans
Hispanics/Latinos
Because these ethnic and racial groups are more likely to have lactose malabsorption, they are also more likely to have the symptoms of lactose intolerance.
Lactose intolerance is least common among people who are from, or whose families are from, Europe.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle I tend to believe the first article over the second which is contradictory to the first.
Soley because of that word significant!
In either case one or the other is being baised.
It looks like your hunting for articles that only prove your argument. Which anyone can do just by the way the search parameters are entered or worded.
If I should look up UFO's guess what I am going to find?
Soley because of that word significant!
In either case one or the other is being baised.
It looks like your hunting for articles that only prove your argument. Which anyone can do just by the way the search parameters are entered or worded.
If I should look up UFO's guess what I am going to find?
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer When it comes to health you tend to believe the first source, a political article which was written by a professor of law, rather than the second source which is a fact sheet from the US Department of Health, (specifically the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases)?
Because in your mind the term "significant" is relative to 10%-50% and the second source clearly states around 68% of the world has lactose malabsorption and that in Africa most (meaning >50%) have lactose malabsorption and in the US, African Americans are more likely to have lactose malabsorption.
Yes, that makes perfect sense.
It's called cognitive dissonance.
This content is provided as a service of the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases (NIDDK), part of the National Institutes of Health. The NIDDK translates and disseminates research findings to increase knowledge and understanding about health and disease among patients, health professionals, and the public. Content produced by the NIDDK is carefully reviewed by NIDDK scientists and other experts.
Because in your mind the term "significant" is relative to 10%-50% and the second source clearly states around 68% of the world has lactose malabsorption and that in Africa most (meaning >50%) have lactose malabsorption and in the US, African Americans are more likely to have lactose malabsorption.
Yes, that makes perfect sense.
It's called cognitive dissonance.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle given today's political stance as well as time frames, I would rather believe a university.
Just saying. Also look up UFO's and see what you get! It's a popular topic is why. What is popular trends.
Just saying. Also look up UFO's and see what you get! It's a popular topic is why. What is popular trends.
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
You prefer the first one because it awards you some wiggle room to interpret it the way you want. 😉
By the way, just out of curiosity, what does lactose malabsorption have anything to do with politics?
given today's political stance
And yet you prefer a political source over a medical one regarding a health issue. That makes perfect sense.You prefer the first one because it awards you some wiggle room to interpret it the way you want. 😉
By the way, just out of curiosity, what does lactose malabsorption have anything to do with politics?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle no you yourself said
If that's not government I don't know what is!
US Department of Health, (specifically the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases)
If that's not government I don't know what is!
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer So by that logic programs under the US Department of Health such as;
Centres for Medicare and Medicaid Services
National Toxicology Program
Child Welfare
Are political?
The military, which are under the Department of Defense are....political?
Centres for Medicare and Medicaid Services
National Toxicology Program
Child Welfare
Are political?
The military, which are under the Department of Defense are....political?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle given what the Trump administration did to the whole system! Heck yes!
It's not to be trusted! Time frames!
It's not to be trusted! Time frames!
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer Given that the referenced sources in the fact sheet, one is from Norway and the other from Switzerland (a UNIVERSITY!!!) I really don't see how Trump has anything to do with it.
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Affiliations
1Centre for International Health, Department of Global Public Health and Primary Care, University of Bergen, Norway.
1Centre for International Health, Department of Global Public Health and Primary Care, University of Bergen, Norway.
Affiliations
1Clinic of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, University Hospital Zurich, Switzerland.
1Clinic of Gastroenterology and Hepatology, University Hospital Zurich, Switzerland.
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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle it's still coming from the US government. Until it gets straighten out I wouldn't trust it. And that will take time. There's still Trump flunkies in there.
Biases even given good data can still sieve good data to make it look however they want. And this IS a racial issue. Attempting to make black people look inferior was always a favorite thing with Trump.
Biases even given good data can still sieve good data to make it look however they want. And this IS a racial issue. Attempting to make black people look inferior was always a favorite thing with Trump.
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer Here you go buddy, you can read the abstract online and OH LOOK!
Shocking!
Anything else?
When standardising for country size, the global prevalence estimate of lactose malabsorption was 68% (95% CI 64-72), ranging from 28% (19-37) in western, southern, and northern Europe to 70% (57-83) in the Middle East
Interpretation: Lactose malabsorption is widespread in most of the world, with wide variation between different regions and an overall frequency of around two-thirds of the world's population. Acknowledging regional patterns of lactose malabsorption is important to guide management of gastrointestinal symptoms.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28690131/Interpretation: Lactose malabsorption is widespread in most of the world, with wide variation between different regions and an overall frequency of around two-thirds of the world's population. Acknowledging regional patterns of lactose malabsorption is important to guide management of gastrointestinal symptoms.
Shocking!
Anything else?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle better yet noticed the variances. Would still like further studies.
28% to 95% is a huge range!
68% (95% CI 64-72), ranging from 28% (19-37) in western, southern, and northern Europe to 70% (57-83) in the Middle East
28% to 95% is a huge range!
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer That's the whole point! 🤦♂️
read this again......slowly
read this again......slowly
How common is lactose malabsorption?
While most infants can digest lactose, many people begin to develop lactose malabsorption—a reduced ability to digest lactose—after infancy. Experts estimate that about 68 percent of the world’s population has lactose malabsorption.1
Lactose malabsorption is more common in some parts of the world than in others. In Africa and Asia, most people have lactose malabsorption. In some regions, such as northern Europe, many people carry a gene that allows them to digest lactose after infancy, and lactose malabsorption is less common.1,2 In the United States, about 36 percent of people have lactose malabsorption.1
While most infants can digest lactose, many people begin to develop lactose malabsorption—a reduced ability to digest lactose—after infancy. Experts estimate that about 68 percent of the world’s population has lactose malabsorption.1
Lactose malabsorption is more common in some parts of the world than in others. In Africa and Asia, most people have lactose malabsorption. In some regions, such as northern Europe, many people carry a gene that allows them to digest lactose after infancy, and lactose malabsorption is less common.1,2 In the United States, about 36 percent of people have lactose malabsorption.1
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle doesn't go far enough.
Look there is another point in all of this that hasn't been mentioned at all.
And that is what has been done to cure the problem. Anything else only makes it incurable. And therefore making blacks inferior. There are certain diets that allow milk products easily digestable. One method is yogurts which convert lactose to a harmless form and overtime ANY lactose intolerant person can become lactose tolerant.
That is just one method. Yet no studies will include any method. Which sort of proves my point on being a racial issue. Those same Africa countries don't have such products. Yet certain part of Greece that's all they eat is milk product that use certain bacteria to convert lactose.
Look there is another point in all of this that hasn't been mentioned at all.
And that is what has been done to cure the problem. Anything else only makes it incurable. And therefore making blacks inferior. There are certain diets that allow milk products easily digestable. One method is yogurts which convert lactose to a harmless form and overtime ANY lactose intolerant person can become lactose tolerant.
That is just one method. Yet no studies will include any method. Which sort of proves my point on being a racial issue. Those same Africa countries don't have such products. Yet certain part of Greece that's all they eat is milk product that use certain bacteria to convert lactose.
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer So the word "significant" in the first source I provided went far enough in determining something but specific details in the second don't? Hmm...interesting.
As for as your "other point" (aka deflection) this post is about MILK!!!!
not yogurt
not cheese
not milk that uses a certain bacteria to convert (I think you mean breakdown) lactose
MILK!
The ability to drink milk.
Anything else?
As for as your "other point" (aka deflection) this post is about MILK!!!!
not yogurt
not cheese
not milk that uses a certain bacteria to convert (I think you mean breakdown) lactose
MILK!
The ability to drink milk.
Anything else?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle and exactly my point!
What do think those products are made of! 🤷♂️
MILK!
As for as your "other point" (aka deflection) this post is about MILK!!!!
What do think those products are made of! 🤷♂️
MILK!
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer So whereas in the previous comment there was a distinction between drinking milk and consuming dairy products in terms of tolerance to lactose...
Now it makes no difference....and milk is milk and if you can eat yogurt then technically you can drink milk.
You're going to have to make up your mind
😉
There are certain diets that allow milk products easily digestable. One method is yogurts which convert lactose to a harmless form and overtime ANY lactose intolerant person can become lactose tolerant.
Now it makes no difference....and milk is milk and if you can eat yogurt then technically you can drink milk.
What do think those products are made of! 🤷♂️
MILK!
MILK!
You're going to have to make up your mind
😉
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle I have said further studies NEED to be made. Especially ones that cure the problem. Which hasn't been done at all.
Anything less is making this a racial issue. Making blacks look inferior. Which is not the case. Once they start eating those products that have been converted there is likely to not be a problem at all. And why no studies have been made.
Anything less is making this a racial issue. Making blacks look inferior. Which is not the case. Once they start eating those products that have been converted there is likely to not be a problem at all. And why no studies have been made.
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer Further studies of what?
To establish racial/ regional variance of tolerance to lactose?
I can get you more.
How many further studies do you need? 3....4?
"Cure the problem"?
Should we also "cure the problem" of racial/regional variance of melanin?
It's a characteristic, not a problem that has to be cured.
Or do you think white people are inferior because they have less malanin and are more prone to getting sunburnt and skin cancer?
Please go on....this should be good
To establish racial/ regional variance of tolerance to lactose?
I can get you more.
How many further studies do you need? 3....4?
"Cure the problem"?
Should we also "cure the problem" of racial/regional variance of melanin?
It's a characteristic, not a problem that has to be cured.
Or do you think white people are inferior because they have less malanin and are more prone to getting sunburnt and skin cancer?
Skin Cancer in Skin of Color
Abstract
Skin cancers in skin of color often present atypically or with advanced stage in comparison to Caucasian patients. Health care providers must maintain a high index of suspicion when examining skin lesions in skin of color.
Introduction
Skin cancer is the most common malignancy in the United States and represents ~ 35–45% of all neoplasms in Caucasians (Ridky, 2007), 4–5% in Hispanics, 2–4% in Asians, and 1–2% in Blacks (Halder and Bridgeman-Shah, 1995; Gloster and Neal, 2006). The incidence of skin cancer has been increasing among Caucasians (Ridky, 2007), but remains relatively low in people of color.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2757062/Abstract
Skin cancers in skin of color often present atypically or with advanced stage in comparison to Caucasian patients. Health care providers must maintain a high index of suspicion when examining skin lesions in skin of color.
Introduction
Skin cancer is the most common malignancy in the United States and represents ~ 35–45% of all neoplasms in Caucasians (Ridky, 2007), 4–5% in Hispanics, 2–4% in Asians, and 1–2% in Blacks (Halder and Bridgeman-Shah, 1995; Gloster and Neal, 2006). The incidence of skin cancer has been increasing among Caucasians (Ridky, 2007), but remains relatively low in people of color.
Please go on....this should be good
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle I personally believe there is no difference between races genetics. Just environments. Over time anyone can become more tolerant.
Time is the factor! And everything not only can yet does change.
It's how these changes happened to begin with.
Please don't say I changed the topic. You did that!
Time is the factor! And everything not only can yet does change.
It's how these changes happened to begin with.
Please don't say I changed the topic. You did that!
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer
Yup sure, gingers all across the world head this man's call
"with time you can develop the same ability to stay in the sun as those with a higher melanin concentration in their skin!"
"those who are suffer from lactose malabsorption can get over it if they just keep at it"
As for changing the topic;
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle doesn't go far enough.
Look there is another point in all of this that hasn't been mentioned at all.
All you buddy 😉
Anything else?
I personally believe there is no difference between races genetics. Just environments. Over time anyone can become more tolerant.
Yup sure, gingers all across the world head this man's call
"with time you can develop the same ability to stay in the sun as those with a higher melanin concentration in their skin!"
"those who are suffer from lactose malabsorption can get over it if they just keep at it"
As for changing the topic;
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle doesn't go far enough.
Look there is another point in all of this that hasn't been mentioned at all.
All you buddy 😉
Anything else?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle no! 😁 I believe I have successfully pulled out your true colors!
By that I mean you're exclusive not inclusive.
Which I have been subtlety hinting at all along.
By that I mean you're exclusive not inclusive.
Which I have been subtlety hinting at all along.
EuphoricTurtle · 41-45, M
@DeWayfarer Yes, yes of course mr."political sources are better sources than health ones because politics have ruined everything"😆
Anything else?
Anything else?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@EuphoricTurtle no point for "Anything else"! You have won your point! And don't realize it.
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