You want to get rid of statues. What next ? any books or anything relevant written by those people too ?

@SW-User what is it leading up to ?

It’s a yes or no@revenant

@SW-User it is a vaguely so it is neither yes nor no

@revenant you are aware that it existed without seeing it..

it’s that simple

@SW-User not the same context.

How so?

@revenant

@SW-User more or less spur of the moment thing

My point ...

The wall existed whether you ever saw it or not. You could read about it on line or in a class
...you don’t need to have a physical reminder...
Why would you need a reminder of something
So tragic?

The same is true for statues to losers in civil wars..

You either see the problem of having monuments erected to men who participated in the denigration of group of people ....or you don’t.


@revenant

@SW-User I understood what you were trying to get at.

I still disagree. Physical reminders make history more alive. More present in the human mind.

More REAL.

@revenant do you think there should be a monument to hitler on the Champs-Élysées?

Would that help you remember the occupation?

@SW-User There was not one at the time and that is the whole difference.

If there had been AT THE TIME, well keep the thing !

It’s different because the people of France
will not celebrate the occupation...
They will celebrate the liberation.


...do you see the ridiculousness of the statement?

no one in France would want to see that..
Why should people who commit atrocities be enshrined?and on the side of a losing effort?

I can’t change your mind...If YOU need visuals..the so be it..
Just don’t question why others are offended by them..
Your family did not suffer like theirs did.
✌🏼
@revenant

@SW-User which country celebrates occupation ?

Have you heard of memorabilia ? are you aware there are collectioners ?

Should I avenge my family now ?

@revenant

1- thanks for making my point
2- I know people collect war items. I do question why
Someone would seek out Nazi memorabilia..
3- we have no context for our forefathers being enslaved for 400 years...
Then segregation etc.

@SW-User should we get rid of museums too ?

Let's get rid of pyramids since apparently slaves were involved.

Just look at little sketches and be in AWE just the same !

Hyperbole!
Lol...
No if anything the museums should be the place for these items.
I am not at all certain that slave labor was used on the pyramids...

@revenant

@SW-User well since some want to erase everything to make place for such a just, rewarding society.

🙄...anything else?@revenant

@SW-User let's get rid of countries altogether, let's get rid of history, let's get rid of cultures...let's get rid of everything !

I want a blank slate where everyone is happy, everyone is good looking, everyone is so nice, everyone has enough money. Paradise on earth !

Sounds great@revenant

fraternité
sororité
égalité

@SW-User pure utopia

I am great with it@revenant

@SW-User disconnected with reality

It’s called anarchism...@revenant

@SW-User it is called delusion