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Cierzo · M
Countries have the leaders they deserve.

SW-User
@Cierzo we don't vote for party (except ironically in the European Parliament elections) in the UK. We elect the person, they at that time may show an allegiance to a party but they can quit and join another the next day and there is nothing much the electorate can do about it. There's no obligation to go back to the electorate. This had happened multiple times in this parliament alone. Only yesterday a Conservative mp accused of sexual assault was thrown out the party, he's been thrown out once before since last election.
We also have a one vote first past the post system therefore he is pm when his party polled a small share of the overall vote. Again spot the irony in the talk about "democracy" being vital.... In a country with a heriditory head of state and an unelected upper house.
Bemusing at times the UK unwritten (and largely misunderstood) constitution isn't it?
We also have a one vote first past the post system therefore he is pm when his party polled a small share of the overall vote. Again spot the irony in the talk about "democracy" being vital.... In a country with a heriditory head of state and an unelected upper house.
Bemusing at times the UK unwritten (and largely misunderstood) constitution isn't it?
Cierzo · M
@SW-User But regardless of the way they are chosen, leaders do not come out the blue, they are a reflection of ideas and behaviour that are, if not shared, at least accepted by large groups of people.
'As above, so below' is a nice catchphrase, but with democracy it is the opposite.
'As above, so below' is a nice catchphrase, but with democracy it is the opposite.

SW-User
@Cierzo actually I'd leave it that way around. I think the "leaders" in many modern societies shape the masses into what they think they want long before the leader is actually installed in power. "As above, so below"
Cierzo · M
@SW-User I think it is media that shapen the masses, and then these choose the leaders.
But masses have the chance too of thinking for themselves instead of eating MSM porridge, and more often than not they refuse to do it.
But masses have the chance too of thinking for themselves instead of eating MSM porridge, and more often than not they refuse to do it.