I understand war is the last resort but sometimes places like Iran need a good snacking to change the way the people are treated in Iran

@OwnerOfMany That's perfect in a beautiful world. It's very hard for some to seek emigrating, beyond the visas and more, but the financial stress of relocating.

Not that I support war or think this is quite justification, either.

@OwnerOfMany so you're prepared to accept the besting or imprisonment of women for not abiding by an arbitrary dress code that's not even informed by religious dogma but a culture that taken on a religious overtone in order to oppress people?

(To say nothing of imprisoning foreign nationals on made up grounds in order to gain leverage with their countries?)

@SW-User I understand that completely. Unfortunately every problem can not be fixed, every person can not be saved. Each of us have our own circumstances and where and when we are born have a lot to do with that. But no one has a right to essentially attempt to wipe out centuries of culture just because they disagree with it.

@OwnerOfMany I agree, mostly. And know I'm essentially a pacifist so I'm the last to condone war.

@Lhayezee Sometimes you have to accept things you can not change. As for the foreign nationals, they know the risk when they set foot in that region. If they assume the risk and take the chance, sorry but that is on them.
If " I " decide to travel or do something, I assume the responsibility for my decision. If I go bear hunting I KNOW there is a risk the bear will win. If I get my ass eaten, oh well, I did it.

@SW-User I can promise you, if you ever had your ass in a war, you damn sure would not condone it.

@OwnerOfMany And in the case of foreign nationals, their respective country can try to repatriate them without escalating war.

@OwnerOfMany I can't speak for the Americas only for me here but I absolutely in no way want to wipe out centuries of culture. Compared to its neighbour and the US' oppressive ally, Saudi Arabia, Iran is a place of millennia of civilisation and learning with a cultural inheritance that dwarfs that of the US.

But they also currently beat women for not covering their hair and have imprisoned a British citizen on essentially no grounds whatsoever (and never mind giving succour to Palestinian territorists who would have given up decades ago otherwise). Requiring them to stop these things isn't destroying Iranian culture.

Basically the British should lead any expedition. We actually have a long successful history of preserving and valuing a culture while preventing it's perverted abuses (I hardly think you'll find many Indians today who are upset that the British banned the burning alive of widows, for instance)

@Lhayezee I do not disagree. And just as general fyi, I am almost a half breed.