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No case for god. [Spirituality & Religion]

They can say "god exists" all they like, but it wouldn't be the truth.
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AlexPett · 26-30, M
You can say "you exist" all you want. But prove to yourself that you exist. Prove to yourself that you aren't living in a "matrix" or whatever and that this is just a dormant version of yourself. Or perhaps that you are NOT living in a dream like state of an unconscious street rat?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@AlexPett Umm... you’ve just made Suzie1960’s point for her
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@AlexPett As René Descartes said, [i]cogito ergo sum[/i]
AlexPett · 26-30, M
@newjaninev2 and how is that? she can't even prove she exists. How can she prove that she does NOT exist? amplify the context and there you go.
AlexPett · 26-30, M
@suzie1960 i shit therefore i have a stomach. totally irrelevant but clever indeed. very broad.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@AlexPett [quote]amplify the context[/quote]

Whatever that means... I’ll try this.

You can’t prove that your god exists, and also you can’t prove that your god doesn’t exist.

Well, OK...
AlexPett · 26-30, M
@newjaninev2 i dont need to prove that He exists! LOL. I just have faith in Him!
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@AlexPett If you want to make claims about it, and then further claim that it has any effect on the physical universe whatsoever, then you certainly [i]do[/i] need to be proving its existence... and more.
AlexPett · 26-30, M
@newjaninev2 please have ice cream...leave me
Sharon · F
@AlexPett Descartes point was that everything could just be figments of his imagination. His thoughts were the only evidence of his own existence.
AlexPett · 26-30, M
@Sharon even the thoughts aren't enough evidence. the thoughts can be illusive and the reality they give birth to can seem like it manifests in its current form. The thoughts could very well be originating from random universal conscience (not advocating for it though). Descartes failed to prove anything except that he is smart with words.
Sharon · F
@AlexPett [quote]even the thoughts aren't enough evidence.[/quote]
They are the only evidence one has of one's own existence. They are the only things we can be certain of.