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Graylight · 51-55, F
Why don't we all stop with the whole "indoctrination' thing? The only difference between indoctrination and teaching is the promotion of questions and examination of the subject material.
Christians teach Christianity. There's nothing wrong with that. Satanists preach Satanism. There's nothing wrong with that. Having grown up Catholic, I can tell you that examination and critical thought are encouraged more than not.
The only way a person can be indoctrinated is by not questioning for themselves what they're hearing; the only way a child can be indoctrinated is if he's not taught the same critical skill.
Christians teach Christianity. There's nothing wrong with that. Satanists preach Satanism. There's nothing wrong with that. Having grown up Catholic, I can tell you that examination and critical thought are encouraged more than not.
The only way a person can be indoctrinated is by not questioning for themselves what they're hearing; the only way a child can be indoctrinated is if he's not taught the same critical skill.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@suzie1960 I get it, but I also understand the desire to save a human soul, and Catholic teaching, as you know, markets the concept of original sin so you have to attack it early and hard.
I say live and let live. You want to ask me if I know Christ? Or Beelzebub? Go for it. But if I decline to talk on the topic, let it be.
I say live and let live. You want to ask me if I know Christ? Or Beelzebub? Go for it. But if I decline to talk on the topic, let it be.
ladycae · 100+, F
@suzie1960 sounds to me that you just don't like christians and are therefore demonizing them. i have benna Christian most of my life and i honestly have never seen kids targeted with indoctrination. i have seen teens seek out answers and ask questions. but that is not indoctrination.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae You're right, I don't like christians, with good cause. I used to be one so I know how insidious christianity can be. In most cases it doesn't become apparent until one tries to leave. At that point, I found out just how nasty and spiteful some christians can be. People who were "all sweetness and light" while I was one of them changed completely.
softspokenman · M
How can young children rationally question what is taught to them by adults @Graylight?
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae Have you tried to break away from christianity? That when I saw their true colours. At first, when I was one of them, they were probably like those you know all "sweetness and light". That changed completely when I saw through the all the lies and deceit.
I don't judge "god" because I don't believe it exists. At best it's just a figment of christians' imaginations and, at worst, deliberately made up to control people.
I don't judge "god" because I don't believe it exists. At best it's just a figment of christians' imaginations and, at worst, deliberately made up to control people.
ladycae · 100+, F
@suzie1960 yes i broke away in my late teens and saw none of what you are talking about at all. my god exists. i walk and talk with him every day. i have seen miracles and miraculous things. simply because you don't believe in him does not give you the right to insult me. and yes you do judge him. i am sorry you live in a society that seems to feel you need to believe but it is the church of England and itis England so in a way it kind of makes sense. king Henry created the church and decreed all should believe. perhaps you should move elsewhere or get involved in politics to try to change things.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@ladycae What do you mean by "broke away"? You're still a christian so they had no reason to turn on you. My society does not feel the need to believe, only some sections of it tries to insist that we do but they're a very vocal minority.
If you want to believe in mythical beings you're welcome to. I think it's foolish to, just as some people think a belief in Santa Claus is foolish.
By saying I judge "god", you're projecting your beliefs onto me. I've already said I do not believe your god exists so I can't judge it.
Evidence that ancient tribes worship some deity doesn't prove the christian god is real. In fact it suggests it isn't because, if it were, all those tribes would have been worshiping the same thing.
If you want to believe in mythical beings you're welcome to. I think it's foolish to, just as some people think a belief in Santa Claus is foolish.
By saying I judge "god", you're projecting your beliefs onto me. I've already said I do not believe your god exists so I can't judge it.
Evidence that ancient tribes worship some deity doesn't prove the christian god is real. In fact it suggests it isn't because, if it were, all those tribes would have been worshiping the same thing.
ladycae · 100+, F
@suzie1960 i stopped going to church and got involved with the occult if you must know. as for judging even negative things can be judgments. you judge him to be a mythical being and you are welcome to believe what you want. i said nothing about ancient gods so i guess you're projecting on me now.