Why Do Americans Value A Piece Of Cloth So Highly?

Why do these morons think a flag means anything? I respect my country, but I don't cry about the flag. It means nothing ultimately. If someone shits on the British flag then whatever, they needed a shit. Is America so empty of real meaning that a flag means that much?

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Alisha · F Best Comment

No matter what is said on either side, the other side will disagree. I was married to a man who served in the US military. He is now gone. I look at it more than just a piece of cloth. He fought for my right to have an open opinion. The freedom to protest. The right to have faith or not openly, without fear of the government. All nations are founded on the killing of others and enslavement. Englands history is proof of that, so is America's. we all have dark in our history. I respect your right to not think of the flag of your country. Please respect mine and others right to think of ours as more.

MaryJo1996 · 26-30, F

@Alisha Easily the best reply. Unlike my rather stupid opening it's not remotely aggressive or insulting.

Fair enough my opinion hasn't changed, but great to read a well considered, thoughtful explanation for why YOU think the way you do.

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MaryJo1996 · 26-30, F

@peterjohnson Given the response by a lot of people in the US to last weeks shooting in Florida, I feel more than comfortable with using that term.

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MaryJo1996 · 26-30, F

@peterjohnson Yes we do have violence. Far too many people die from knife crime over here. But a knife can't murder 17 people in a few seconds, like an automatic weapon did in Florida last week.

And we don't have people wandering in to schools on a regular basis slaughtering innocent children, (it's happened ONCE in 22 years), with a gun bought at the local supermarket!!!

You second amendment in literally the stupidest thing in the world, apart from those who defend it. Those who wrote your constitution would be ashamed of all the murders committed because your people are so pig-headed you won't change it.

So will we agree? No. No we won't.

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MaryJo1996 · 26-30, F

@peterjohnson Well, we're not letting 19 year olds walk into a gun shop, buy an automatic weapon, and murder 17 people. So yeah, in the respect, we're doing much better!

Alisha · F

@MaryJo1996 to clear up a falsehood. You cannot purchase a gun at a supermarket. I do not wish to argue about the for or against, but I've watched this conversation strip turn in to name calling instead of honest debate. Please read my earlier post to know my feelings. What does it say about US as humans if debate cannot happen without calling each other names. You are not the only one doing it by far, but it's just so sad. I respect your opinion, does change of some kind need to happen. Yes, but it's more than just the guns. It's the hate. Criminals and people who hate will find a way to get weapons, we need to address the dealer problem of hate. Looking back, there was hardly any note of this type of stuff happening before 1999. What has changed since. Guns were available before that as well but did not happen.