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Air India Tragedy

It is a tragedy, but it seems as if may not be Boeing's fault, or GE for that matter.

The two engines on the Air India flight shut down within one second of each other before the Boeing 787 Dreamliner crashed last month in Ahmedabad, India, killing at least 260 people, according to a preliminary report released Friday.

Both engine fuel control switches that, if pulled while in flight, cut power to the engines, transitioned from the “run” to “cutoff” settings as the plane took off, according to the report.

In the recovered cockpit voice recording, one of the pilots is heard asking the other why he cut off fuel to the engine. The other pilot responded that he didn’t, according to the 15-page report.

The switches moved back to “run” and one engine was regaining thrust when the plane crashed.

The report doesn’t specify which of the two pilots asked the other about the switches. Both pilots had an adequate rest period before the flight, underwent preflight breath analyzer tests and were deemed fit to fly, according to the report. The first officer was flying the plane and the captain was monitoring during takeoff.

I would think that this kind of scenario would be impossible, but during takeoff the plane would be operating under manual control, so there is no auto-pilot to prevent this kind of scenario.

I see some emergency repairs now, to prevent this from happening in the future.
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Chrisy1 · 18-21
I really feel for the poor passengers and the flight crew, if fuel was cut to the engines, then that doesn’t sound like mechanical failure in my humble opinion 😞
Hopelandia · M
@Chrisy1 as @romell said, let the proper inquiry reveal what happened, but I might have to agree..
Northwest · M
@Chrisy1 My local paper covers this extensively, as it does anything related to Boeing.
dubum · 51-55, M
Let the expert decide what lead to the crash. BTW listen to this rant of Taiwanese pilot who use to work in India.

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Northwest · M
@BlueGreenGrey

what happened with the other engine

Fuel was cut to both engines.
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romell · 51-55, M
Gentleman
Let the proper inquiry reveal what happened,it's cruel to suggest anything especially hinting at pilot failure at this stage.
Hopelandia · M
@Northwest Then unfortunately, there is only one possible answer.
Northwest · M
@Hopelandia
Then unfortunately, there is only one possible answer.

Agreed. Everyone is a conspiracy theorist at this stage.
Hopelandia · M
@Northwest I know I said that, but you have just said that these things do not spontaneously move.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Intentional?
Northwest · M
@trollslayer
Intentional?

One of the pilots manually cut the engines fuel off, based on the recording of one pilot asking the other why he cut the fuel supply, but the other pilot's response that he did not do it, may mean that it was accidental. One of them tried switching it back to on, and one engine was regaining thrust but that was not enough to prevent the crash.

Then again, it the way it happened, if one of the pilots was intentionally trying to crash the plane, doing it just after takeoff, means any corrective action, at this low altitude (625 feet) will fail because the plane will more to start climbing, before it hits the ground.

This is a wide-body with a full tank, for a nearly 19 hour flight, so crashing with all that fuel, also means an inferno that will kill a lot of people on the ground as well.

Not the first a suicidal pilot took everyone with him.
walabby · M
@Northwest The pilot saying that he did not shut the fuel off might be a deliberate attempt to confuse the investigation, knowing that everything that he said would be recorded...?
Northwest · M
@walabby I'm guessing it's not about the investigation, but to throw off the other pilot to insure the flight is totally doomed.

Sad.
Hopelandia · M
It's very hard to see beyond this being deliberate.

 
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