Do u believe that Donald J Trump really groped all of those women ?

@cherokeepatti: yes he did.

Rape culture begets rape culture
The most pernicious thing about rape culture is that it’s self-perpetuating. Women are afraid to come forward about sexual assault because they’re worried they won’t be believed. When they do have the courage to come forward they often aren’t believed. Their characters are ripped apart; their motives are questioned; they’re told they were probably ‘asking for it.’ And so other women decide they may as well just keep quiet. If we are to learn anything from Trump’s masterclass in rape culture it’s that none of us should keep quiet.

@EJTOOO: that is all true but never forget false allegations destroy lives all the time -and that's true too

Lol ... NYC huh?

@Zonuss: voting for a woman who exposed classified information during the debate. Talk about someone unfit to be president. Sheesh.

@Zonuss: just in the spirit of keeping it real ... voters in NYC, California, Illinois, NJ and Massachusetts are [b]completely irrelevant[/b] in this election ... nobody is paying attention to voting in those locations ... statistically,they are not representive of the larger United States. Unfortunately, NYC, demographically speaking, is a bit of an island.

Oh, they'll be investigated. They're alleged crimes and exist independent of this election. As to why the women didn't come forward sooner, ask a female the next time you get a chance.

Even if 60% are outright liars (and who wouldn't clamor for the prestigious title and attention "alleged sexual assault victim" brings with it?), he still has FAR too many claims to be statistically an innocent man in this.

@cherokeepatti: And biggest NY Times stakeholder

@cherokeepatti: THEY don't say. Trump said.Like he said Obama wasn't born in America.Like he lies ALL the time

Tweet me your first assaults,” wrote Kelly Oxford after the Trump tape leaked. “I’ll go first: Old man on city bus grabs my ‘pussy’ and smiles at me, I’m 12.” By Sunday the trickle of responses had become a stream, a river, the sea. Soon there were millions of women telling stories, often stories they’d never told anyone before, often involving walking home from school, or dancing at music festivals, or the kinds of men you were meant to call “Uncle”. Oxford said she was receiving two replies a second. “Anyone denying rape culture,” she wrote, “please look at my timeline now.”
Men are oblivious to the Jaws theme each woman hears when travelling alone
There is the woman who was 10 when a man with a coat over his arm groped her at a museum. The woman who was 14 when an optician dropped a contact lens down her blouse and stroked her breast. The woman who remembers a man cupping her arse when she was in the queue for ice cream at Disneyland. The effect of reading all of these tiny stories one by one is cumulative. You stand up, eventually. You get off the bus with eyes glassy and an ache behind your ribs and you walk through a group of commuters carrying your phone in one hand and in the other despair. And then you order coffee, tell the guy your name, and smile, without teeth.
While Oxford’s feed isn’t shocking to a single woman, it is clearly different for men, some of whom seem to have been oblivious to the Jaws theme each woman hears when travelling alone. Most came open-armed, including the Republicans denouncing Trump because they have daughters, granddaughters. Which, with respect, misses the point slightly. While feminist awakenings (Jeb Bush may not have identified his as such) must be welcomed, doesn’t a sentiment like that expose the lack of empathy they must have had before; their inability to recognise a woman unless in relation to a man? A meme circulated a couple of years ago, shortening “She’s someone’s daughter” to “She’s someone”. It seems crucial that in order for anything to change, these fathers and grandfathers need to realise that earlier.
As so often happens when I read women’s personal stories of abuse, I’m shocked at how unshocked I am. There is nothing new here. We’ve smelled this gas for years, but every so often somebody like Oxford strikes a match, and fires start. You realise something, if you carry on reading, ignoring the feeling of having cycled into a bin lorry and then having rubbish dumped on your scuffed and moaning body. You realise how many stories you have told yourself throughout your life to pretend everything is OK. How much you have been expected to ignore, and how much you have glossed over, or laughed at, or pretended was totally, completely fine. “My fifth assault,” continued Oxford, some time later, “Age 15, at hospital for anxiety & heart palpitations. shirt is off for ekg, 2 Drs, not my Drs, stop & stare. 1 winks at me.”
Things in the cold light of adulthood reveal themselves as, if not technically assault, then certainly a cousin. But they’ve been refiled as sassy anecdotes, or stories about the oddness of men. I had and have a beautiful life, and yet, like all women to different degrees, it’s been lived to a muted soundtrack of powerlessness. Reading Oxford’s feed, I remembered the ice-cream van outside school, the man who would give us broken lollies if we climbed inside and sat on his knee. I remembered walking home through the woods, and my friend shouting “RUN” when she saw a man with his coat open standing beside a tree. When we were called out of our French lesson to talk to the police, we told the other girls about it with pride – the story had been spun in our heads so there was something affirming about the fact that a hooded man had chosen us. Us! It wasn’t fear we learned, it was something worse – we learned to laugh at the men who snuck their fingers up your top on a busy train, or shouted comments about your school uniform from cars. As adults, an accumulation of expectations of what a woman is for led to many anecdotes between friends about “bad dates”, “bad sex”, being playfully strangled, ejaculated on, left behind.Women walk into relationships now with virtual keys clenched in their fists, as if forever walking home on a dark night.

Too bad Bill isnt running. Trump also lost the morality battle... grabbing pussy.
Repeal the 19th!!!?

@Distancerunner: nah. Showed hillary's poor judgement

@MasterLee: they are both political cyborgs...nothing phases either

The absence of proof does not make it real or not. I am not saying he did all these women but innocent people get hurt by the most unlikely people. I dont agree with the theory. I am sure you dont either

@EJTOOO: Yes, sexual assault is against the law and beyond PC. Often in perception there is a fine line however.

My ex asked me once "may I please kiss you?"

It was sooooo charming but 99.9% percent of the time it happens without explicit consent

A couple of times I've done the dodge

A couple of times I've ended up with a short kiss I disliked

Most of the time it was welcome

Once I tried to kiss a girl but she dodged. Id misread it.

The postscript is my ex went on to grab my pussy. And by that stage it was very welcome. He didn't ask first.

@questionWeaver: Thanks QW I often think today's conversations are more like a blood sport. Perhaps hunters hunting down a fox. I'm very happy and flattered you see the peace I try to get to. There is so much emotion on some issues -and as you are aware you get accused of different things -in this case that I'm a man -one can second guess oneself and end up very defensive :))

@EJTOOO: EJ ... very good point ... yes, sexual assualt is a criminal manner ... a very serious society issue.

I hope you are never placed in a situation of sexual assault.

If you are, reach out to solid trusted peers around you. Do go to the police. Do assert that a crime has occurred.

These ladies in the media did not do any of that.

The ladies popped their claims into a political campaign ... asserting ... at the very best, they have reason to feel agrieved ... I think they may be agrieved.

But, they asserted no legal crime ... they chose a path of asserting that there is some kind of political correctness rule ... a sort of law nobody voted on, that Mr Trump violated.

Bill Clinton was a pervert and rapist and did a pretty good job.

Interesting.

@Greenwind: You proved my point.

Like bill clinton you mean?

@MasterLee: Master of what? Idiocy?

@3EasyPayments: i never met someone wanting to mortgage themselves over 3 payments. Bill could probably pay you in 1 lump sum.

@MasterLee: Nice casual use of sexism you got there.

Hmmmmm.

He actually admitted that he is on live radio. What a character, right.

exactly. He admitted to forcibly kissing women and "grabbing them by their pussy". How could anyone dispute this??

They say Mexico's Carlos Slim, a billionaire who has been rumored to be connected to the drug cartels, is behind the Trump harassment accusations. He has a lot to lose if Trump is elected and gets his way with the wall.

True.

No. Clinton was only found out after he became President of the US. And he was punished for his sins.

do you have any idea how hard it is to come forward about something like this. i was sexually assaulted by a pastor once and just coming forward to my church was devastating. imagine if it's a man as ugly, suit happy, verbally abusive as trump? i would not have come forward. but when he said in the debates that he never ever sexually assaulted women i would have felt i had to come forward. people are not nice to people who come forward to expose a public persona. people accuse them of lying, or somehow wanting it to happen or being paid to lie. one woman's phone, address and personal info was tweeted to millions, the press camp out on your lawn. everyone seems to think they can chime in about your guilt or innocence. you will never again have a private life. the man who assaulted you degenerates you publicly says you would were not attractive enough to grope. These women's lives are destroyed at the moment. you don't lie about things like that. the cost is too great.

[b][/b] Yes, its true.

Yeah. Like Hillary. 🙂

Money talks

most said it was a surprise attack

@LvChris: i rest my case

@MasterLee: lol ... luv the vortex ascertion ... nice play ... I think you wore them out.

Rhetoric takes a lot more energy than clear conscience and reason.

Well played ... you were 2 touchdowns ahead at the half and finished strong