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Do u believe that Donald J Trump really groped all of those women ?

[b][/b] Or fondle. Or touch. Or well, you know. Slept with them. At this point he is about as bad as Bill Cosby himself. Do you really believe that Trump touched all of those Women who are accusing him or being a predator. Or do you believe that this is nothing but a big fat lie. 🙂
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MasterLee · 56-60, M
Trumps plan will only pause our demise by 10 years. Hillary will destroy us in less than 4. She looked horrible and had no new material. She sticks with the lies.
I love pivots where we pivot to something we feel strongly about ... Hillary's pivots were to nonsense ... yawners.

4th graders give better answers.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@questionWeaver: Democrats are better at the economy than Republicans. I think its pretty obvious now given where we are today vs where we were 8 years ago.
Zonuss ... there is no living conscious sole who could possibly think the economy is good ... or that the governments reduction in the velocity of money hasn't harmed the nation at all levels

... or that the economy has under-performed any other 8 year period since the civil war

There is no statistical measure that shows anything short of under-performance.
Windsylph · F
@masterlee: respectfully, I find it interesting how as humans we have different reactions to things. I thought Secretary Clinton looked fabulous (although really... appearance shouldn't matter) and on the flip side, I thought Mr. Trump looked exhausted, angry and distracted. Fortunately, differing opinions make things interesting and frankly is one of the rights our country was built on.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Windsylph: he did look tired. Tired of her robotic accusations long debunked. It wasnt a debate. It didnt change any minds.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@MasterLee: Of course it did. The Independents are now pushing Clintons numbers even higher. Unless you are blind, dumb, or stupid. You will soon have to admit that Hillary is your US President. Deal with it.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Zonuss: such a sharp tone. How many liberals ever accepted W. Take a chill pill.
Zonus ... did ya miss statistics class?

Hillarys numbers are only moving in NY and CA ... two states not even involved in the election.

Elsewhere, her numbers can not break 50 ... and are far below where she started.

There exists 8-12% of hardened GOP sitting in the undecided and libertarian totals ... these folks will never vote for Hillary.

It is game over for Hillary if even half of these simply vote like they usually do ... a straight R ticket

None of those will vote Hillary

I can not figure these people out ... there is no data at all to guide us here.

But, as far as name recognition ... everybody knows Hillary ... if you were voting for her ... nothing will change your mind.

But, there are no more Hillary votes to be found ... Trump, as the newcomer, could win a few more new votes ... but not many.

The election completely rests with the GOP regulars ... they will vote ... they always do ... but will they vote for Trump?
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@questionWeaver: Uh no sir. He numbers are growing rapidly in many states. Especially in PA, NC, SC, FL, AND OH. That's just the tip of the iceberg my friend. Stay tuned. Youll be another one of those people here that I will say this to when its all said and done. I told you so. 🙂
Zonus ... and I will tell you, that you are no gentleman ... nor a friend
Zonuss · 41-45, M
[b][/b] That's fine. Like I said. On Election Day the truth will come out. I think only a rational mind can fathom what will be. You can vote for Trump and that is fine and dandy. But the aftermath will be shame and disgrace as it always is with those kinds. 🙂
Zonus ... I am quite glad you think so highly of yourself. It is a healthy thing.

I am not part of your elite status nor any part of your social circle.

I believe firmly in a man's character ... how he presents himself ... and his grace.

I won't judge you

But, I am far different from you.
Windsylph · F
@MasterLee: I agree... it wasn't a debate the great nation of the United States of America should be able to expect of [b]both[/b] our candidates. Soft breezes to you. May our nation find its way.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@questionWeaver: We are all different my friend. I just think you lack the perceptiveness to even understand what is going on behind closed doors in the real world. Trump is not who you think he is. Nor does he have your best interest at heart. Angry people are the most vulnerable. My question to you is this. At what point in your life did you think it was okay for you to lose your common sense and morale state of mind.
Zonus ...lol ... I question if you ever had common sense and morals ... have no idea if you might recognize them or not ... I know your dialogue shifted to personal attacks, once you lost momentum.

That is a universal sign of weakness.

As to being a friend ... I can not ascertain if we have shared values ... I do not get the impression, in the least, that you wish and hope I prosper.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@questionWeaver: It wasn't a personal attack. You criticized me for supporting sweet Hillary. So it was an even exchange. With that being said, you are allowed to vote for who you desire to do so. No beef here. Don't be so sensitive. 🙂
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Zonuss: never heard the word 'sweet' attached to hillary, ever.
Zonuss · 41-45, M
@MasterLee: It was humor.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Zonuss: good cuz I threw up in my mouth
Zonus my apology if I slighted you for voting for Hillary ... I am very indifferent as to who people align with. I applaud you getting out there and voting.

It was the idea the world economy is somehow good ... and the idea there is anybody anywhere that somehow someway changed their preference between these candidates in the last 10 days.

The numbers don't show those kind of things.

We have seen more people move to essentially undecided and not voting ... poll internals ... it has changed the spread, but both candidates have dropped as a share of the voting population.

Hillary has improved spread, but not picked up votes.

Mathematically, the populace is showing wear ... not decisive conclusions.

They have started to predict low turn-out ... due to the wear-out factor ... I am not sure what to think ... the missing demographic is twitter ... it is inescapable that Trump has like 25mm fans on direct dial ... 1st time ever ... this is more significant than age, or sex as a demographic ... but we have zero poll info on this.

So ... we can not measure wear-out ... or the behavior pattern of Bernie and Ted Cruz voters ... or the impact of twitter.


We know voter fatique has set in big time.

We do know, that less than 1/2 of 1 percent of voters actually have "changed their mind" ... most polls continue to show a net zero change. They do ask this question.

80% of the poll changes involve strong republican support moving back and forth between Trump and "not voting" ... an interesting phenonomen in itself.

It makes the next weeks a mathematical nightmare to measure ...


The only thing that happened last night ... was Hillary failing to close the deal ... if she was half as good as she said she is ... she would have knocked him out ... it was so easy ... and she misplayed every opportunity.

So ... Trump and Trump supporters move on even more fired up ... as Trump tries to entice republicans.

It could not be crazier
Zonuss · 41-45, M
Another delusion. People are out here in my area voting already..for Hillary. She has 96% of the Latino vote. 86% of the Black vote. And about 60% of the Caucasians. There are less people who are now voting for Republican nominee Donald J Trump than there was for Mitt Romney.
I guess you can believe your sources at your own peril. But Ive been following mines for 16 years. So far, they have been right every single time.
🙂
Lol ... NYC huh?
MasterLee · 56-60, M
@Zonuss: voting for a woman who exposed classified information during the debate. Talk about someone unfit to be president. Sheesh.
@Zonuss: just in the spirit of keeping it real ... voters in NYC, California, Illinois, NJ and Massachusetts are [b]completely irrelevant[/b] in this election ... nobody is paying attention to voting in those locations ... statistically,they are not representive of the larger United States. Unfortunately, NYC, demographically speaking, is a bit of an island.