What's the point of letting the trans women into girls sports?

@CountScrofula why is it actually fine? You have to admit-. They're going to dominate quite easily in women's sports....

@Changeisgonnacome How much do you know about the effects of hormone replacement therapy on the body?

@CountScrofula I know you never get shorter. I know you'll always have a longer femur and humorus than a female. I know that this was settled when Dr Rene Richards tried to play ladies tennis in the sixties-. And no new information makes it different.

@Changeisgonnacome So should women with long femurs be banned from professional sports?

@CountScrofula @Changeisgonnacome
If you have grown up has a male (or basically not taken hormone therapy until a later age) then you will still have far greater muscle mass, denser bone structure and be taller on average but if you take them earlier from being a child along with puberty suppressants you create a lot smaller more agile physical physique so it is a very slippery road to go down we 'might' effectively be giving licence to bio engineering people for specific sports. Like the Russians supposedly use to stop female gymnasts from entering puberty, just to make them stay smaller so they were more agile and flexible.

The thing is though, even if you said well ok then so transgender people should just have there own separate gender groups for sport. It still doesn't fix the problem in anyway because here's no real fixed rules or scientific definitions to what being a transgender women even is normally. Some have sex changes, some do hormone therapy, many don't do anything biologically and simply use prosthetics or whatever to give some curves.

All I'm getting at here is there is no clear cut genuine answer, you can't just add trans people to sport and make it work, no matter how good people's intentions maybe it's got a really good chance of going horribly wrong. You will always have to exclude a large amount of trans people one way or another anyway, and there will always be a very real possibility of creating an unfair playing field in one way or 100 others further down the line we haven't even thought about yet and we might well be creating a genuine health risk to a whole generation of naturally healthy trans people who wouldn't normally of even considered taking HRT who would now take it simply to handicap their own bodies natural capability. To what extent would a biologically male person have to handicap there bodies own physical ability to make it truly competitive? So it has a lot of implications. x
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@CountScrofula okay. Obviously the winners will win. Nobody can have a place in sports for the inferior! Trans women will also dominate the Thai girlfriend trade, sex work. Trans women will crush the real thing and shame us for trying to be a sub category of women at all.
Because men do that. They're men.
The men will literally shatter our bones on the playing field. Force your way in to do it-. That's also a man thing.

@Changeisgonnacome

> rans women will also dominate the Thai girlfriend trade, sex work. Trans women will crush the real thing and shame us for trying to be a sub category of women at all.

lol you're a terrible person

@AdaXI This is an actually useful answer because you wanna step away from transmedicalist definitions. That said the big problem here is that bigots are using this as a wedge issue to legislate trans folk out of existence.

I'm less concerned about the sanctity of the olympics and more concerned about teenagers not killing themselves because they're excluded from all athletic activity and not allowed to go to the bathroom in high school which is what this is all really about.

@CountScrofula it's not about me-. This is a settled question and lies are not universal human rights.