Who will make the prem top 4?

The second tier in the prem league all keep losing and it shows the gulf between them and the top two.

Tbf, Spurs are definantely the third best team even without Harry Kane. Yes they edged out City in the champions league too but they are not title contenders.

Chelsea and United have double the Spurs wage bill and are falling apart at the moment. Both teams have massive problems to address. Incredibly they still have a chance to make fourth because of Arsenal's crap form. Though Emery has at least improved on what he inherited.

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InOtterWords · F

Of arsenal, Man u and chelsea I say Man U

Shame wolves and Watford are so far behind them

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@InOtterWords wolves have had a brilliant season, got some good players there

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@InOtterWords United fans are scathing at the moment about their big ego lazy players.

They have a wage bill the same as City but with average players due to crap management. They massively overpaid sanchez and he's been on the bench so they have been forced to overpay other players too. Ed Woodward must be the least effective director of football in the prem. The most effective (though it's not his official job) is Daniel Levy.

InOtterWords · F

@Burnley123 whence won lost and drew to City last week, all their players I believe cost more than £30m, we had one, Sissoko

InOtterWords · F

@Nyloncapes great win for them today

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@InOtterWords Spurs also have less than half the wage bill of City and United. Its two hundred million + vrs spurs hundred million.

United's problems are deep because of terrible transfer policy over a number of years.

Appointing Solskaer as interim was a smart move and Jose had to go. As soon as he signed long term though, its all fallen apart. Some united fans are regretting not going for pochettino. From their point of view if would have been a smart move but they are not smart.

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@Burnley123 ole is a nice guy, but out of his depth

InOtterWords · F

@Burnley123 I honestly would have been surprised if he left this season, man U no longer have the pull and here Poch is making a name by creating a great team instead of just buying one

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Nyloncapes He is. Though I'm not sure anyone can turn it round. There is big cultural problem with the players.

InOtterWords · F

@Nyloncapes ole is really nice....did you see Gary Nevilke's rant last week?

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@InOtterWords I do think he would leave if he got a great offer. Its hard to see ole turning united around though. Next season they could struggle to get in the top four again.

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@Burnley123 think they could be like this for years , and what top players will want to sign for them, there is going take a good few years to make united a force again and no idea who will do it

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@InOtterWords yes I did , he was right

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Nyloncapes They can't sign the very best. They wanted Frenkie De Jong but they had to give up as soon as they heard Barca were interested. It was the right idea though.

They need to be smart in the transfer market and get improving young players who are well motivated. They also miss the leadership of Ibrahimovic.

Pogba is a huge problem too and I think they should sell him, though the United fans are divided.

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@Burnley123 pogba has to go , waste of money,

Nyloncapes · 61-69, M

@Burnley123 can you imagine Roy Keane, Bryan Robson , scholes, not giving everything week in week out , not like pogba turn up when he wants

Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@Nyloncapes I don't think he will ever reach his potential at United. Might as well sell him while you can get a big fee.