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Mourinho sacked. Was it his fault?

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RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
It was our fault for chanting 'Don't sack Mourinho' on Sunday. 😟

Seriously though most of us knew when he was appointed that it would end in tears for them. He was already a busted flush after his last disastrous season at Chelski and it was remarkable that no-one at Utd could see it , or that they thought his brand of football would go down well with the Old Trafford faithful. Apart from that his signings were absolutely awful and I think also that losing his longtime No.2 Rui Faria was a much bigger blow than many realised at the time.

Critical time now for Utd , they've already fucked up big time with three managerial appointments. A fourth mistake could be catastrophic for them.
billstickers · 36-40, M
@RodionRomanovitch imagine if temp manager was big sam lol
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@billstickers It'd be even better if they made it permanent.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch I bet Liverpool fans are GUTTED by recent events
TheWildEcho · 56-60, M
@billstickers Moyes is who they need! Much better than moanrinio
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch I think they are a long...LONG way from title contention in such a competitive league. Even two years of getting everything right might not be enough because they've spent the last six years getting everything wrong.

I think Mourinho is to blame and I agree he is a busted flush as a manager. I think the club regretted not appointing him straight after Ferguson and were trying to correct past mistakes. I don't think any big club with any sense will give him a job again. If I was a United fan, I'd also be angry with the board and Ed Woodward because their transfer policy has been ridiculous for a long time. They have spent gazillions and still have a massively imbalanced squad and no sense of identity. Liverpool are much better than them and have a much smaller budget so Mourinho can't moan too much (though he will anyway).

What about a replacement?

Who is even available that they could appoint? Zidane is favourite but I'm not convinced that he is actually a great manager. I know he won three European Cups in a row but that could be down to his unique chemistry with Real Madrid. He doesn't really coach or have a sophisticated understanding of tactics but Real Madrid's egotists listen to him because of who he is. Conte is too much like Mourinho so that would be a really dumb appointment. Pochettino would be the ideal fit but I don't think he would leave Spurs mid-season.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 From all accounts Laurent Blanc is favourite for the job , ex-Utd player and all that. I'm not convinced by him at all , so obviously his appointment would gp down well here.

Zidane ? I think much the same as you. Ok at Madrid where he was a legend and had the respect of the galacticos because he was one himself. But at Utd , entirely different kettle of fish. I wouldn't mind them signing him either.

Pochettino. They would love to have him but I can't see him jumping ship at Spurs to go to Utd at this moment in time when he can either have Madrid or PSG next year , if he wants.

I disagree about Conte. He won the title in his first year at Chelski post-Mourinho with basically the same squad. What's to say he couldn't do it again ?

Ancelloti. Brilliant manager proven at top level and in England too. I would fear his appointment also.

Maybe they will be stupid enough to give it to Ryan Giggs or Mark Hughes. That would be fun to watch.
TheWildEcho · 56-60, M
@RodionRomanovitch how they would love klopp lol
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch LOL. I think United fans are dumb if they want Giggs because the former player thing is massively overrated. Ancelotti is in his first season at Napoli and doing pretty well so I don't think he would leave now. My point about Conte is that he is too similar to Mourinho and they are a club which needs a change. I think he is a better coach than Mourinho but he rules by intimidation. Pirlo said that Conte's 'words assault you' and with all the negativity at the club, the players need positivity. Conte also imploded at Chelsea.

Maybe they will appoint Blanc as a short-term thing and then go for a new coach in the summer. That tends to be when elite level coaches become available. This season is already a write-off anyway because I can't see United getting in the top four or beating PSG. I think they could get Pochettino in the Summer because he is slightly disillusioned at Spurs.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 I hope you're wrong about Pochettino , he's the one that we would fear most. Just imagine what he could do with unlimited funds. I still think he'll end up at Madrid though , he's virtually said as much himself already.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch You could well be right but if I were him, I'd pick United because in England they really back you if they believe in you as a coach. Real Madrid is a Managers graveyard where player-power rules.
thatscottishguy · 26-30, M
Sure I seen Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is now favourite.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@thatscottishguy That makes sense. He failed at Cardiff so why wouldn't he succeed at UTD? 😂
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
@RodionRomanovitch pochettino has won nothing, let's see what he wins this year,
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Nyloncapes I dunno whether that is fair. He has about a third of United's budget but has built a much better team.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 I doubt Levy would ever allow it to happen or if it did appear likely then he would demand such exorbitant compensation as to make it almost impossible. That's what I'm hoping anyway , he's a tough cookie that Levy.
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
@Burnley123 yes good team , but for last few years now we keep hearing about his team and how good they are , he has money if he wants a player,but end result he has won nothing,
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch Fergie decided not to bid for Modric as a replacement for Scholes because he couldn't stand negotiating with Levy LOL. Fair play to him though, you want that reputation.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Nyloncapes Spurs are overachieving as a club and a lot of that is down to the coach. Look at similar sized clubs such as Newcastle, Leeds and Villa. Spurs problem is that there are bigger and richer clubs than them which are also well run; like City and Liverpool. It's not their fault though and I don't think they could do much better than they are.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 ha ha .... I'd forgotten about that.

@Nyloncapes 'he has money if he wants a player' ..... no he doesn't.For two years they haven't had a transfer kitty because of the new stadium.
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
@RodionRomanovitch what's the point of brand new stadium and win nothing, ask the fans what they want trophies or new stadium I know the answer
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Nyloncapes It's not for the fans to decide though is it mate. Revenue stream , that's their priority. Although with tv money nowadays it's debatable whether gate receipts are as important now as they once were. There's always the chance that this massive investment might not pay off in the way they envisioned.
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
@RodionRomanovitch totally agree the gate money not so important as it was, just saying the fans want to win trophies , yes might not pay of, it is all about money now football, your told when you can kick of what days playing, money has ruined it to a point, and the joke champions League now , all about money not a proper competition
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch It's an interesting point that stadiums don't generate revenue. For me, it's interesting to look at the Bundesliga, where the teams have massive crowds but most of them have less money than Bournemouth (stadium capacity 14,000).

I think Spurs did need a new stadium though because it has a big effect of the image and branding of a club. If you have a 60,000 seater stadium then fans take you more seriously as a major power. Players are more likely to sign too.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Burnley123 I actually read somewhere recently that some PL clubs (Bournemouth probably being one of them) could play behind closed doors all season and still remain profitable.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch I bet Burnley is another given that we still pay really low wages and transfer fees. We'll get relegated and make a nice profit so well done to our board for sound planning.