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RedBaron · M
Doesn’t matter. It’s just semantics.
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@RedBaron It's more than semantics. I think @shakemeup has the right definition: It's the environment in which things grow that shapes how they fruit.
That goes for innocent children growing in a chaotic and abusive home; It goes for a dog who is chained in a yard and is teased instead of loved; It goes for a refugee child who has seen death and has internalized a need for revenge; It's also the same for a person who has been given more than they need, who has never been corrected for doing wrong and who has never realized what responsibility means.
All of those 'seeds' have grown 'roots' and those roots have fed on what was available to them: Change the soil and the plant will chemically change what it feeds its own seeds.
That goes for innocent children growing in a chaotic and abusive home; It goes for a dog who is chained in a yard and is teased instead of loved; It goes for a refugee child who has seen death and has internalized a need for revenge; It's also the same for a person who has been given more than they need, who has never been corrected for doing wrong and who has never realized what responsibility means.
All of those 'seeds' have grown 'roots' and those roots have fed on what was available to them: Change the soil and the plant will chemically change what it feeds its own seeds.
RedBaron · M
@JollyRoger No it isn’t. Problems are problems whether they come from roots or seeds.
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@RedBaron OK.... Problems are problems! How problems become problems is the real question. My suggestion is: Problems arise when someone is mistreated (or overly coddled); If someone is mistreated, they remember (LONG TIME MEMORY) and they eventually reconcile that mistreatment in several ways: 1/ When triggered by a successive injustice, they irrationally lash out in revenge (seeking justice) ; 2/ They subduct the injury and react passively (on the surface) but make it a goal to right that injustice for the sake of others; 3/ they live in fear.
A 'coddled' person has never recognized what injustice is and they blindly and hedonistically pursue their own interests (a narcissist) - thus they pose problems to everyone they meet because they cannot be trusted.
A 'coddled' person has never recognized what injustice is and they blindly and hedonistically pursue their own interests (a narcissist) - thus they pose problems to everyone they meet because they cannot be trusted.
RedBaron · M
@JollyRoger True enough, but there’s nothing any of us can do about other people’s lives and their issues.
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@RedBaron Oh Yes we can! Psychological counselling works well to resolve subducted issues; The courts work well to address revenge issues and the jails (are supposed) to provide counselling and turn people's attitudes around. As for narcissists?? = Yup.... just steer clear of them.
RedBaron · M
@JollyRoger Only qualified professionals, not any rando on the Internet, and only for those who want and seek help.
JollyRoger · 70-79, M
@RedBaron Of course.... I don't profess to resolve people's problems.... I'm just offering an explanation for your understanding.