Have you ever dealt with someone who calls themselves religious but it's obvious they haven't completely squared their faith? [Spirituality & Religion]

@hunkalove mans religion yes, god's, no

@hunkalove I disagree with that characterization because you're essentially becoming what you seek to despise with that particular outlook. And I've seen religion do good in people. I guess the question is more, does religion actually solve character flaws? Or can it incubate them until they metastasize into something much worse.

@Deadcutie Agreed - man's religion is more politics than faith. 🤔

@VeronicaPrincess well said

@hunkalove I tend to be judgmental at times, but that's when I'm NOT leaning into my faith. When I remember who I should be, I try to remember 2 things: let the man without sin cast the first stone, and the only one who should ever judge is THE CREATOR (by whatever name you call him).

@Deadcutie how can you separate the two? MEN/Man created religion and gods

@Fernie in your view maybe. But to me, they are competing opposites in my view

@Deadcutie any rational thinker sees it my way..it's a fairy tale created by humans or maybe aliens to control the minds and behaviors of the masses.

@Fernie the quote "Any rational thinker sees it my way" is inherently judgmental. Isn't that what you're trying to avoid?

@Tjamison believing in invisible, never any concrete proof of, sky fairies is irrational. No different than Santa, The Tooth Fairy, etc. No difference

@Fernie Eating red meat is irrational. That does not make a person incapable of rational reasoning. Should I judge you for eating a hamburger?

@Fernie how do you know you are rational? Wouldn't a truly rational person accept the idea that they may be possibly wrong?
Rational thinking, or mans flawed reasoning and mans full rejection of god is the reason This world is so messed up. Where has your rational thinking gotten us so far? 6000 years of war, suffering, greed, lust, misery and bondage.

Rom 1:18-32 sums up our sad downfall into "rational" thinking and paints a pretty good picture of our modern self absorbed society as a whole.

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

@Fernie besides when you look at the alternative of no god, you are left with a universe and life that formed from nothing. Not very rational thinking..