Hi christians! On whom does the burden of proof lay: christian or atheist? [Spirituality & Religion]

Doesn't everyone have their demons?

@hippyjoe1955: It's not about winning or losing. Christian, show don't tell. Show by example

hi Literaturegirl
Demons me? Hmm I guess an imp or two!
Best wishes
:)

@MetalGreymon: debate on faith is futile. But it is impossible to prove a negative.

@GJOFJ3:

Sure is. Which is why it seems strange to me when i'm asked to prove that god doesn't exist

@MetalGreymon: I can't show you where He is and I don't expect you to show me where he aint.

@Cinderella:

ok

@MetalGreymon: Ah but you see most on this site are atheists offering a pro evolution view point. It is then incumbent on them to provide proof.

@hippyjoe1955: What does evolution have to do with this?

1. There's no proof that gods exist (otherwise we'd all be deists)

2. there's no proof that gods don't exist (they might be lurking around a mountain-top somewhere)

3. In any case, there's no compelling necessity to even make the postulation in the first place. besides which, it explains nothing, and tries to merely explain everything away.

4. Therefore, I have no gods.

No claim, so no burden of proof.

In what way is evolution germane to that?

@hippyjoe1955:

Ah but you see, that argument holds merit only in a thread wherein evolution is being espoused.
That is not the case here. Here, in this thread, you have agreed that "god exists" is a positive argument that must therefor be proven by the advocate.

Even proving evolution does not disprove god. The theist's burden to prove their assertion that god exists has literally nothing to do with an evolutionist's responsibility to prove evolution.

You cannot pretend that you don't have to prove your assertion simply because you feel someone else hasn't proved their unrelated assertion.

@sailnude: So, just to be clear... I find a watch, which I know to have been designed by a human, therefore everything else in the universe was designed by a human?

Is that what you're saying?

@newjaninev2: I am saying that, if you do not have the experience of knowing the Holy Spirit, then you are left with His Word and the complexity and great design in the universe to point you to the God that made you.

@sailnude: Complexity will universally can be reduced to simple, naturally-occurring processes. No design required. No designer required.

@MetalGreymon: It was truly an amazing time in my life, very awe inspiring, and painfully wonderful....The gospel come to life and understood by those who seen it and heard it....Mysteries revealed, and believed or stolen by the enemy for a false prophet also got to have her say, discrediting my sainthood spreading around half truths and lies about me, I learned to be happy no matter what, and I was excited about the adventure of it all....Honestly I wouldn't want it any other way it was great.....But that's just me.....What about you are you an atheist or a Christian?

@saintchantal:

Well i'm glad your happy.
I'm an atheist

@MetalGreymon: Well that's fine by me, I wish you the best.

@Meowsolini:

If you're not interested in the discussion, why enter the thread?
Live and let live😉

@MetalGreymon: Because this is my opinion. And when you post on a public forum, you invite ALL opinions.

@Meowsolini:

And now you have the answer to your own question.😏

@CinnamonWorlds:

how is atheism a metaphor

@johnny253: Blessed are those who have not seen yet believed in Jesus Christ.

@puck61:

I find pleasure in debate👍

@MetalGreymon: Well, this one has been going on for at least 50,000 years or so. It's started with a group of people grunting really loud and pointing at the sun. They won the first round!

@puck61:

Good to be part of long tradition

@ProdigalSummer:

I direct you to my response to meowsolini

@Peekaboo:
Oh don't be that way. Don't use specialized terminology and then get upset when i don't understand it

@bijouxbroussard:

It does seem that it should fall on the party making the positive claim